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By: BÃ¨r

BÃ¨r — Thu, 19 Jan 2006 23:11:22 +0000

@factoryjoe
yes, i love that route In fact, I am a recent microformat adept. Still, I think that dictionaries are still built on top of (silly?) grammatic rules, set by grammar fetishist. Yes, they are people in grey suits, bending over silly Engrish technicalities (I guess Dutch are much worse in that then UKers, let alone USspeakers). Stilll those laws manage to set standars, which are so extremely important to make up our communication. There would be no 1337 14nGu4g3 without proper well define enlish grammar laws.

In other words: yes, Oasis is a bunch of grey suits. People setting very technical (yet not very practical) laws on how we shoulod order our information.
Still they manage very well to make up good standards, standards where folks like those behind microformats shhouls at least strive towards.

By: FactoryJoe

FactoryJoe — Thu, 19 Jan 2006 21:41:26 +0000

@ Lloyd: fixed

@ Ber: sure, but the purpose and development process of Microformats are different. Microformats don’t aim to boil the ocean and get everyone to agree. It’s kind of like a dictionary for common behaviors: “since 7 out 10 people use this class for marking up this kind of content, we’ll use it as the standard”. In that way it’s similar to being able to go to a dictionary to see how people spell things like potato or Iditarod. You’re free to stray from the norm, but at least with microformats, you’ve got a place to start from — additionally using technology available today (XHTML 1.0).

By: BÃ¨r

BÃ¨r — Thu, 19 Jan 2006 10:26:07 +0000

sorry, wrong paste :$ the homepage of oasis is here: http://www.oasis-open.org

By: BÃ¨r

BÃ¨r — Thu, 19 Jan 2006 10:23:57 +0000

You might also want to check the more official (and, IMO much better architectured) specs on oasis.

No, they are not as easy to adopt as microformats,
Yes, they are all official
Yes, they are already in use (OO.o and government software)
No, it is not known to the broad public.
But, yes, it is *far* more powerfull then microformats could ever (want to) be.

http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/documentation/reference/html/address.html

By: Lloyd D Budd

Lloyd D Budd — Thu, 19 Jan 2006 08:55:32 +0000

Your link from “Community Marks idea” is bad.

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microformats | weblog | Microformats are semantic markup — Tue, 17 Jan 2006 23:43:34 +0000

[...] cussion Chris and I had yesterday in the microformats irc channel, which Chris has already blogged about. In essence, Chris was asking for a microforma [...]

By: ryan king

ryan king — Tue, 17 Jan 2006 02:42:40 +0000

I think you’ve got it right here, Chris.

The point that’s often missed is that microformats are an outgrowth of a movement that’s been going on for quite some time, away from presentational markup on the web towards structural, semantic markup.

Microformats are an extension of that movement which codifies regularities discovered in people doing all this semantics/structure work.

Oh, and come on, where’s my credit for the quote, “there’s miles of semantic markup before microformats.”

By: B.K. DeLong

B.K. DeLong — Tue, 17 Jan 2006 02:34:47 +0000

Hey – it’s a start. You should definitely consider adding your ideas to the microformats wiki – it would at least give us something to discuss and potentially test implementing.