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	<title>Comments on: Me and Microsoft, Part I</title>
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		<title>By: The beast has awoken; or, The beginning of Web 2.0 at FactoryCity</title>
		<link>http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2006/01/30/me-and-microsoft-part-i/comment-page-1/#comment-45719</link>
		<dc:creator>The beast has awoken; or, The beginning of Web 2.0 at FactoryCity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2007 21:26:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Allchin said something to me rather ominous when I had dinner with him and some other terrific folks back in January. After I&#8217;d introduced myself as a Flock employee and an open source [...]</description>
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		<title>By: WTF at FactoryCity</title>
		<link>http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2006/01/30/me-and-microsoft-part-i/comment-page-1/#comment-2835</link>
		<dc:creator>WTF at FactoryCity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Apr 2006 23:06:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Apparently the result of Scoble&#8217;s influence on Microsoft&#8217;s culturepor the slumbering giant is final waking up. Jim Allchin wasn&#8217;t kidding about &#8220;hearing us&#8221; (the open source community that is) as evidenced by Bill Hiff&#8217;s explanation of this new site: So why is it called Port 25? Some background on port numbers first. SMTP is short for Simple Mail Transfer Protocol and is the protocol for sending email messages between servers or from a mail client to a mail server. On a server, the port for SMTP is 25. When you open a port on a server, such as to allow for SMTP traffic, it is commonly referred to as â€˜listeningâ€™ on the port. Port 25, therefore, is a metaphor for how we are opening the communication lines to for a discussion around Open Source Software and Microsoft. Cute, huh? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Apparently the result of Scoble&#8217;s influence on Microsoft&#8217;s culturepor the slumbering giant is final waking up. Jim Allchin wasn&#8217;t kidding about &#8220;hearing us&#8221; (the open source community that is) as evidenced by Bill Hiff&#8217;s explanation of this new site: So why is it called Port 25? Some background on port numbers first. SMTP is short for Simple Mail Transfer Protocol and is the protocol for sending email messages between servers or from a mail client to a mail server. On a server, the port for SMTP is 25. When you open a port on a server, such as to allow for SMTP traffic, it is commonly referred to as â€˜listeningâ€™ on the port. Port 25, therefore, is a metaphor for how we are opening the communication lines to for a discussion around Open Source Software and Microsoft. Cute, huh? [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2006/01/30/me-and-microsoft-part-i/comment-page-1/#comment-2048</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2006 17:54:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#62;&#62;actually, i have heard no news of Jobs donating to a charity or foundation, especially one in his own name, you?

Perhaps Jobs follows the biblical code of giving: "don't let the right hand know what the left is doing" and not declareing your good deeds to everyone for pats on the back. Better check your facts before you make statements like that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt;actually, i have heard no news of Jobs donating to a charity or foundation, especially one in his own name, you?</p>
<p>Perhaps Jobs follows the biblical code of giving: &#8220;don&#8217;t let the right hand know what the left is doing&#8221; and not declareing your good deeds to everyone for pats on the back. Better check your facts before you make statements like that.</p>
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		<title>By: John Tokash &#187; More On the Jim Allchin/Vista SF Dinner</title>
		<link>http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2006/01/30/me-and-microsoft-part-i/comment-page-1/#comment-2005</link>
		<dc:creator>John Tokash &#187; More On the Jim Allchin/Vista SF Dinner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2006 10:02:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...]   			February 1, 2006 @ 12:10 am  			&#183; Filed under vista,  windows						 			 			 				 Chris Messina&#8217;s Report Randy Holloway Unfiltered 2.0: Another blogger dinner [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...]   			February 1, 2006 @ 12:10 am  			&#183; Filed under vista,  windows						 			 			 				 Chris Messina&#8217;s Report Randy Holloway Unfiltered 2.0: Another blogger dinner [...]</p>
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		<title>By: luxuryluke</title>
		<link>http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2006/01/30/me-and-microsoft-part-i/comment-page-1/#comment-1989</link>
		<dc:creator>luxuryluke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jan 2006 19:49:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh, yeah, before you come back on that one, i AM just like everyone else. i don't like gates, but i like his money.
not true for me.

actually, i have heard no news of Jobs donating to a charity or foundation, especially one in his own name, you?
I think bill has his good qualities. i've been taught to have a distasteful attitude by my peers towards bill, but when it comes right down to it, he does a lot of good things for the world.

sorry. rambling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh, yeah, before you come back on that one, i AM just like everyone else. i don&#8217;t like gates, but i like his money.<br />
not true for me.</p>
<p>actually, i have heard no news of Jobs donating to a charity or foundation, especially one in his own name, you?<br />
I think bill has his good qualities. i&#8217;ve been taught to have a distasteful attitude by my peers towards bill, but when it comes right down to it, he does a lot of good things for the world.</p>
<p>sorry. rambling.</p>
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		<title>By: luxuryluke</title>
		<link>http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2006/01/30/me-and-microsoft-part-i/comment-page-1/#comment-1988</link>
		<dc:creator>luxuryluke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jan 2006 19:46:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good ol' scoble, eh?
Ah ha! I wonder if he can swing some of bill's philanthropy towards you guys to form the flock trust foundation. "sponsoring interface design and web usability in community application designers with small grants for startups" or some such shit.

get on it, scobe!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good ol&#8217; scoble, eh?<br />
Ah ha! I wonder if he can swing some of bill&#8217;s philanthropy towards you guys to form the flock trust foundation. &#8220;sponsoring interface design and web usability in community application designers with small grants for startups&#8221; or some such shit.</p>
<p>get on it, scobe!</p>
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		<title>By: Dimitri Glazkov</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dimitri Glazkov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2006 19:00:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aw crap. I thought it was going to be about Flock being acquired by Microsoft or sumthin. BTW, "Linda the organizer from ?". Where are the pics?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aw crap. I thought it was going to be about Flock being acquired by Microsoft or sumthin. BTW, &#8220;Linda the organizer from ?&#8221;. Where are the pics?</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Scoble</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Scoble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2006 17:42:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yup, that's true!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yup, that&#8217;s true!</p>
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		<title>By: FactoryJoe</title>
		<link>http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2006/01/30/me-and-microsoft-part-i/comment-page-1/#comment-1966</link>
		<dc:creator>FactoryJoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2006 15:56:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Luke, a interesting anecdote: every time I see Scoble he likes to tell me that he gave Bill Gates a six minute demo of Flock as a demonstration of "what's going on out there"... So yes, I would say that Microsoft has &lt;em&gt;some&lt;/em&gt; awareness of us... ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Luke, a interesting anecdote: every time I see Scoble he likes to tell me that he gave Bill Gates a six minute demo of Flock as a demonstration of &#8220;what&#8217;s going on out there&#8221;&#8230; So yes, I would say that Microsoft has <em>some</em> awareness of us&#8230; <img src='http://factoryjoe.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: luxuryluke</title>
		<link>http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2006/01/30/me-and-microsoft-part-i/comment-page-1/#comment-1964</link>
		<dc:creator>luxuryluke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2006 14:18:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting article/dinner, chris!
i hope this actually eases people's notions of microsoft as a corporation. they are living/breathing and notice things in the world just as you and i do. i'm sure there is someone at microsoft that discovered flock early on and mentioned it/ discusses at length about it with their crew.
i'm guessing the reason they didn't chomp on you or rip you to pieces for being an opensource freak was because they were jealous. sure they've got colleagues to help them research, write code for them, and on and on, but for many people we have a kind eye towards a small group of people who fly in the face of large corps in front of the whole world and make a change. a change in the way the world browses.
and like i said, i'm sure redmond took notice a while back...

good luck, chris, and here's to you (barcamp chug)!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting article/dinner, chris!<br />
i hope this actually eases people&#8217;s notions of microsoft as a corporation. they are living/breathing and notice things in the world just as you and i do. i&#8217;m sure there is someone at microsoft that discovered flock early on and mentioned it/ discusses at length about it with their crew.<br />
i&#8217;m guessing the reason they didn&#8217;t chomp on you or rip you to pieces for being an opensource freak was because they were jealous. sure they&#8217;ve got colleagues to help them research, write code for them, and on and on, but for many people we have a kind eye towards a small group of people who fly in the face of large corps in front of the whole world and make a change. a change in the way the world browses.<br />
and like i said, i&#8217;m sure redmond took notice a while back&#8230;</p>
<p>good luck, chris, and here&#8217;s to you (barcamp chug)!</p>
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