Comments on: These things are new or weird in my world http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2006/04/12/these-things-are-new-or-weird-in-my-world/ This can all be made better. Ready? Begin. Tue, 18 Jan 2011 00:50:29 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: FactoryJoe http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2006/04/12/these-things-are-new-or-weird-in-my-world/comment-page-1/#comment-2948 FactoryJoe Sun, 16 Apr 2006 07:34:54 +0000 http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2006/04/12/these-things-are-new-or-weird-in-my-world/#comment-2948 It's a tight rope to walk, because the value that each user is providing to Google as a "monetizable pair of eyes" is infinitely more valuable than the service we'd be getting. The problem is that we're starting with a proprietary system designed to sell ads by also selling a service. Should our sewer system have started out as a private system? Should public transit be privatized? The broader issue here is with control of the data... while I don't trust the government or private corporations, at least if the data is held by the municipal government, we'd have a chance at prying it out... Whereas in the case of Google -- look at how they've resisted the DOJ... what if it were a citizen advocacy group requesting access to that data and Google refused? We have no recourse against Google (besides choosing to not buy their product -- which is too late an act if they get a state-sponsored monopoly on wifi). We at least have a way of voting out the incompetents in office... So let me say that, yes, municipal WiFi is a good thing in general -- too much of this reeks of ulterior motives that I fear won't be realized before it's too late. It’s a tight rope to walk, because the value that each user is providing to Google as a “monetizable pair of eyes” is infinitely more valuable than the service we’d be getting.

The problem is that we’re starting with a proprietary system designed to sell ads by also selling a service. Should our sewer system have started out as a private system? Should public transit be privatized?

The broader issue here is with control of the data… while I don’t trust the government or private corporations, at least if the data is held by the municipal government, we’d have a chance at prying it out… Whereas in the case of Google — look at how they’ve resisted the DOJ… what if it were a citizen advocacy group requesting access to that data and Google refused? We have no recourse against Google (besides choosing to not buy their product — which is too late an act if they get a state-sponsored monopoly on wifi). We at least have a way of voting out the incompetents in office…

So let me say that, yes, municipal WiFi is a good thing in general — too much of this reeks of ulterior motives that I fear won’t be realized before it’s too late.

]]> By: Outlandish Josh http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2006/04/12/these-things-are-new-or-weird-in-my-world/comment-page-1/#comment-2940 Outlandish Josh Sat, 15 Apr 2006 19:06:20 +0000 http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2006/04/12/these-things-are-new-or-weird-in-my-world/#comment-2940 On the "Metropolis X's and its citizens' eyeballs were sold to..." I have to say that's a rather cynlical way to look at municipal WiFi, even for you, man. Getting the city to foot the bill (meaning a bond or a tax or something) will come along if you get enough people loving the internet to demand it. At this point an ad-supported service for free is a big step up for a lot of people, and $20 a month for "premium" is doable, especially if there's an option (as in Philly) to get that knocked down to like $7 if you're working class. On the “Metropolis X’s and its citizens’ eyeballs were sold to…” I have to say that’s a rather cynlical way to look at municipal WiFi, even for you, man. Getting the city to foot the bill (meaning a bond or a tax or something) will come along if you get enough people loving the internet to demand it.

At this point an ad-supported service for free is a big step up for a lot of people, and $20 a month for “premium” is doable, especially if there’s an option (as in Philly) to get that knocked down to like $7 if you’re working class.

]]> By: Jeffstyr http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2006/04/12/these-things-are-new-or-weird-in-my-world/comment-page-1/#comment-2923 Jeffstyr Fri, 14 Apr 2006 01:36:31 +0000 http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2006/04/12/these-things-are-new-or-weird-in-my-world/#comment-2923 <a href="http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=302417" rel="nofollow">How to clean your Mighty Mouse</a> might help! How to clean your Mighty Mouse might help!

]]> By: Lloyd D Budd http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2006/04/12/these-things-are-new-or-weird-in-my-world/comment-page-1/#comment-2921 Lloyd D Budd Thu, 13 Apr 2006 22:38:57 +0000 http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2006/04/12/these-things-are-new-or-weird-in-my-world/#comment-2921 Thanks for the headlines! Niall seemed like such a nice guy. Flipping my mouse over and rolling the nipple around solved a similar problem for me. I am also journeying to be more <a href="http://www.foolswisdom.com/~lloyd/wordpress/index.php/empathy-still-the-most-important-skill/" rel="nofollow">empathic</a>. Keep on rockin' in the free world, Lloyd PS. The link to Barcamp SF is broken. You may have forgot the http:// Thanks for the headlines!

Niall seemed like such a nice guy.

Flipping my mouse over and rolling the nipple around solved a similar problem for me.

I am also journeying to be more empathic.

Keep on rockin’ in the free world,
Lloyd

PS. The link to Barcamp SF is broken. You may have forgot the http://

]]> By: HiMY SYeD http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2006/04/12/these-things-are-new-or-weird-in-my-world/comment-page-1/#comment-2918 HiMY SYeD Thu, 13 Apr 2006 16:01:00 +0000 http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2006/04/12/these-things-are-new-or-weird-in-my-world/#comment-2918 Now that SBC has gone lower case for their AT&T neo-moniker, the UNDER SURVEILLANCE in upper case reads as if it is a screaming txt msg. Wonderful find. Now that SBC has gone lower case for their AT&T neo-moniker,
the UNDER SURVEILLANCE in upper case reads as if it is a screaming txt msg.

Wonderful find.

]]> By: NoteMe http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2006/04/12/these-things-are-new-or-weird-in-my-world/comment-page-1/#comment-2916 NoteMe Thu, 13 Apr 2006 11:21:57 +0000 http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2006/04/12/these-things-are-new-or-weird-in-my-world/#comment-2916 I am not sure if I want to know the answer, but what is you "My Mighty Mouse’s gray nipple stopped working."?? If it is stuck on you, please don't show any pictures..:D - ØØ - I am not sure if I want to know the answer, but what is you “My Mighty Mouse’s gray nipple stopped working.”?? If it is stuck on you, please don’t show any pictures..:D

- ØØ -

]]> By: Marshall Kirkpatrick http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2006/04/12/these-things-are-new-or-weird-in-my-world/comment-page-1/#comment-2915 Marshall Kirkpatrick Thu, 13 Apr 2006 08:06:35 +0000 http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2006/04/12/these-things-are-new-or-weird-in-my-world/#comment-2915 Sweet! Have fun in Bangalore! I've heard there's nothing better for a funky couple than a trip to Bangalore. Sweet! Have fun in Bangalore! I’ve heard there’s nothing better for a funky couple than a trip to Bangalore.

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