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	<title>Comments on: Calling all heros</title>
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		<title>By: CHERYL BAJADA</title>
		<link>http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2006/05/08/calling-all-heros/comment-page-1/#comment-102660</link>
		<dc:creator>CHERYL BAJADA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 21:45:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do you think that all employees in the workplace are hereos..as they contribute daily to the organziation.</description>
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		<title>By: New Founders Interview with Tara Hunt and Chris Messina of Citizen Agency &#187; The HARVEST Blog</title>
		<link>http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2006/05/08/calling-all-heros/comment-page-1/#comment-98881</link>
		<dc:creator>New Founders Interview with Tara Hunt and Chris Messina of Citizen Agency &#187; The HARVEST Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 16:43:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] is difficult! But fortunately, Tara and I had been having a conversation about symbols (see my rant) and wanted our identity to be something that was simple and striking… like the Batman symbol. We [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Stephen Cosgrave</title>
		<link>http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2006/05/08/calling-all-heros/comment-page-1/#comment-3664</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen Cosgrave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 May 2006 11:11:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Chris,

Please, excuse my spelling (^Immanent), I should have proofread it first (can't edit comments?).

I came over here from http://buytaert.net/commercial-drupal-training#comment.  Who knows, maybe I'll win a Segway! ;)

- Namaste</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Chris,</p>
<p>Please, excuse my spelling (^Immanent), I should have proofread it first (can&#8217;t edit comments?).</p>
<p>I came over here from <a href="http://buytaert.net/commercial-drupal-training#comment" rel="nofollow">http://buytaert.net/commercial-drupal-training#comment</a>.  Who knows, maybe I&#8217;ll win a Segway! <img src='http://factoryjoe.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>- Namaste</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Cosgrave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen Cosgrave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 May 2006 10:59:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regarding the quote in your stimulating article, as human beings, having an immanant and transcendent equilibrium can be illusory.  This is an apparent contention with Ken Wilber.  He would likely say that's because you are still in "The Matrix" but I'm with you as your insight here may illuminate this as a potentially obfuscated threat present in Integral Theory (as opposed to Sri Aurobindo's Integral).

Why do you think we have such a high level of obesity in American compounded with forced schooling designed to make super consumers, not super humans?

For example: http://www.johntaylorgatto.com/underground/toc1.htm

You see it in the movies in fact. You see it with characters like V. But those tales of hyper-violence that exist in the Matrix genre of reality are farcical, pretending to give us some deep clue about the inner reality of our time but only obfuscate the confusion and true alienation of our time.

Iâ€™m sorry, I canâ€™t just call in an exit. Iâ€™m sorry, I just canâ€™t take the blue pill. Iâ€™m sorry, I donâ€™t have the strength of 40 men with the ability to absorb hundreds of bullets fired point-blank. Iâ€™m ordinary; Iâ€™m human; Iâ€™m no hero: Iâ€™ll die and make mistakes. And so Iâ€™m terribly desirous of someone who is some kind of superperson to come in and clean up the mess weâ€™ve made.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding the quote in your stimulating article, as human beings, having an immanant and transcendent equilibrium can be illusory.  This is an apparent contention with Ken Wilber.  He would likely say that&#8217;s because you are still in &#8220;The Matrix&#8221; but I&#8217;m with you as your insight here may illuminate this as a potentially obfuscated threat present in Integral Theory (as opposed to Sri Aurobindo&#8217;s Integral).</p>
<p>Why do you think we have such a high level of obesity in American compounded with forced schooling designed to make super consumers, not super humans?</p>
<p>For example: <a href="http://www.johntaylorgatto.com/underground/toc1.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.johntaylorgatto.com/underground/toc1.htm</a></p>
<p>You see it in the movies in fact. You see it with characters like V. But those tales of hyper-violence that exist in the Matrix genre of reality are farcical, pretending to give us some deep clue about the inner reality of our time but only obfuscate the confusion and true alienation of our time.</p>
<p>Iâ€™m sorry, I canâ€™t just call in an exit. Iâ€™m sorry, I just canâ€™t take the blue pill. Iâ€™m sorry, I donâ€™t have the strength of 40 men with the ability to absorb hundreds of bullets fired point-blank. Iâ€™m ordinary; Iâ€™m human; Iâ€™m no hero: Iâ€™ll die and make mistakes. And so Iâ€™m terribly desirous of someone who is some kind of superperson to come in and clean up the mess weâ€™ve made.</p>
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		<title>By: Leo-oo-</title>
		<link>http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2006/05/08/calling-all-heros/comment-page-1/#comment-3568</link>
		<dc:creator>Leo-oo-</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 May 2006 10:38:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Matthew Reinbold
You hit the nail! Thanks!</description>
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You hit the nail! Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Outlandish Josh</title>
		<link>http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2006/05/08/calling-all-heros/comment-page-1/#comment-3554</link>
		<dc:creator>Outlandish Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 May 2006 00:16:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, the days when my outrage resevoir wasn't depleted...</description>
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		<title>By: Matthew Reinbold</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew Reinbold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 May 2006 16:05:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heroes are just ordinary people who's actions get retold. Commit to daily doing something, a-one-little-something, that is worth retelling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heroes are just ordinary people who&#8217;s actions get retold. Commit to daily doing something, a-one-little-something, that is worth retelling.</p>
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		<title>By: Leonard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leonard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 May 2006 09:03:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These classic politico-dystopian comics (TDKR, V for Vendetta, Watchmen) are interesting, because sure, we have it bad, but these were written at the height of the Reagan/Thatcher era.  The cold war was still on, with the everlooming foregone conclusion of nuclear winter, and the yuppies partied on while AIDS and the Culture Wars ravaged the land and voodoo economics did its work.

Growing up, I was pretty oblivious to it (Transformers and GI Joe were at the top of my radar during the mid-80s), but looking back - those were pretty damn bleak times.  (TDRK hit its *20th* anniversery this Feb, BTW).

And before that, LBJ and Tricky Dick?  We're about to hit casualties of 2.5K in Iraq.  The official America KIA count in Vietnam was just shy of 60K.  Even Iraqi civilian casualties, which must number in the hundreds of thousands are dwarfed by a magnitude in Vietnam (4M *civilians*!)

Are things getting worse?  It's hard to say.  It feels like administrations are getting better at deception, and that more people are willing to be deceived (true believers! amen!), but at the same time, while frustrating, the Internet has definitely changed political discourse positively, and it seems like this new generation, bred on video games, im, and Google is media savvy in a way that the old guard could never hope to be.

I suppose it could all just collapse on itself, we do seem to be skirting ever closer to the edge of the surf, but that's seems to be the inevitable byproduct (cost?) of our technological progress.

Now, re: superheroes.  They don't exist!  As far as I can tell, every single one of them, from Batman, to Jesus, to Achilles are mostly-to-completely fiction.  History though seems full of individuals around whom momentous movements focus and catalyze - a combination of personal qualities perfectly suited to a confluence of environmental factors.  Every historical person of note was surrounded by a web of other people and a chain of circumstances without which what happened wouldn't have - of course, what's important and not is only historicized post-facto, the shapes shifting until a canon is formed.

All that is saying that it won't be superheroes that change things for bettr or worse, just people.  (The laws of the country now being broken, were just things created by other people off of principals originally established by some other people).  And there's nothing especially special about Bush being President except he was the right sack of potatoes at the right time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These classic politico-dystopian comics (TDKR, V for Vendetta, Watchmen) are interesting, because sure, we have it bad, but these were written at the height of the Reagan/Thatcher era.  The cold war was still on, with the everlooming foregone conclusion of nuclear winter, and the yuppies partied on while AIDS and the Culture Wars ravaged the land and voodoo economics did its work.</p>
<p>Growing up, I was pretty oblivious to it (Transformers and GI Joe were at the top of my radar during the mid-80s), but looking back - those were pretty damn bleak times.  (TDRK hit its *20th* anniversery this Feb, BTW).</p>
<p>And before that, LBJ and Tricky Dick?  We&#8217;re about to hit casualties of 2.5K in Iraq.  The official America KIA count in Vietnam was just shy of 60K.  Even Iraqi civilian casualties, which must number in the hundreds of thousands are dwarfed by a magnitude in Vietnam (4M *civilians*!)</p>
<p>Are things getting worse?  It&#8217;s hard to say.  It feels like administrations are getting better at deception, and that more people are willing to be deceived (true believers! amen!), but at the same time, while frustrating, the Internet has definitely changed political discourse positively, and it seems like this new generation, bred on video games, im, and Google is media savvy in a way that the old guard could never hope to be.</p>
<p>I suppose it could all just collapse on itself, we do seem to be skirting ever closer to the edge of the surf, but that&#8217;s seems to be the inevitable byproduct (cost?) of our technological progress.</p>
<p>Now, re: superheroes.  They don&#8217;t exist!  As far as I can tell, every single one of them, from Batman, to Jesus, to Achilles are mostly-to-completely fiction.  History though seems full of individuals around whom momentous movements focus and catalyze - a combination of personal qualities perfectly suited to a confluence of environmental factors.  Every historical person of note was surrounded by a web of other people and a chain of circumstances without which what happened wouldn&#8217;t have - of course, what&#8217;s important and not is only historicized post-facto, the shapes shifting until a canon is formed.</p>
<p>All that is saying that it won&#8217;t be superheroes that change things for bettr or worse, just people.  (The laws of the country now being broken, were just things created by other people off of principals originally established by some other people).  And there&#8217;s nothing especially special about Bush being President except he was the right sack of potatoes at the right time.</p>
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