Comments on: What’s next for Firefox advocacy? http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2006/06/29/whats-next-for-firefox-advocacy/ This can all be made better. Ready? Begin. Wed, 03 Dec 2008 00:00:49 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7-RC1 hourly 1 By: A Fool’s Wisdom » Still browsehappying? http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2006/06/29/whats-next-for-firefox-advocacy/comment-page-1/#comment-29250 A Fool’s Wisdom » Still browsehappying? Fri, 24 Nov 2006 21:38:36 +0000 http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2006/06/29/whats-next-for-firefox-advocacy/#comment-29250 [...] I don’t think inviting bloggers to their San Francisco launch shows that Microsoft gets community. It shows they get marketing. The IE team is doing a great job with their blog, and Microsoft in general with topical blogging. This falls far short of, as CEO of Mozilla Mitchell Baker puts it, “[giving] up some command and control” to their community. Firefox has some self empowered communities, but I am with Chris Messina in wanting more from Mozilla: I’d like to see Mozilla stand up and declare the principles, ideas, dreams and ambitions that set it apart and keep its proponents up at night, dreaming of ways to get the story out there to an ever-widening audience. Anything less, and the juggernaut will bowl us over, diminishing the effects of the incredible achievements that have been made in the past two years. [...] [...] I don’t think inviting bloggers to their San Francisco launch shows that Microsoft gets community. It shows they get marketing. The IE team is doing a great job with their blog, and Microsoft in general with topical blogging. This falls far short of, as CEO of Mozilla Mitchell Baker puts it, “[giving] up some command and control” to their community. Firefox has some self empowered communities, but I am with Chris Messina in wanting more from Mozilla: I’d like to see Mozilla stand up and declare the principles, ideas, dreams and ambitions that set it apart and keep its proponents up at night, dreaming of ways to get the story out there to an ever-widening audience. Anything less, and the juggernaut will bowl us over, diminishing the effects of the incredible achievements that have been made in the past two years. [...]

]]> By: 2036 AD ...... http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2006/06/29/whats-next-for-firefox-advocacy/comment-page-1/#comment-10472 2036 AD ...... Fri, 30 Jun 2006 12:51:29 +0000 http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2006/06/29/whats-next-for-firefox-advocacy/#comment-10472 <strong>The future of Firefox...</strong> Chris makes the point that most of the premise for Firefox (pop-up blocking, tabbed browsing, speed, security) disappear with the advent of IE7. Unless Firefox is able to display consequential differention, there is likely to be a shift towards IE7...... The future of Firefox…

Chris makes the point that most of the premise for Firefox (pop-up blocking, tabbed browsing, speed, security) disappear with the advent of IE7. Unless Firefox is able to display consequential differention, there is likely to be a shift towards IE7……

]]> By: Eric Skiff http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2006/06/29/whats-next-for-firefox-advocacy/comment-page-1/#comment-10444 Eric Skiff Fri, 30 Jun 2006 05:51:59 +0000 http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2006/06/29/whats-next-for-firefox-advocacy/#comment-10444 As a supporter of the NY Times Ad and <a href="http://firefoxflicks.com/flick/?id=24193" rel="nofollow">contributor to Firefox Flicks</a>, I've been wondering the exact same thing. The mighty charge to the top of the hill seems to be over. The flicks campaign really did feel like preaching to the choir. Meanwhile, Firefox continues to spread like wildfire. Nearing 200 million downloads, it's reaching a point of market penetration that IE7 may not have a chance of beating, even bundled into Vista. Perhaps is just that we've won in so many ways, we're not sure what the next battle is. Perhaps it's that we're arrogant enough to believe that people won't slip back to IE once 7 finally fixes the biggest bugs. Perhaps is that now that the competition has aped our best stuff, we don't actually know if we're better. As a user, the thing that will keep me on firefox for the forseeable future is the easy extensibility. The first thing I do after downloading is install adblock plus, filterset G, the web developer plugin, and forecast fox. I'm sure every other power-user has a different set of favorite plugins and extensions. For microsoft to compete with that, they'll need an open API for extending their browser and a community of developers. Being truly cross platform will help us. Supporting windows 2000 (and earlier, something IE7 is NOT expected to do) will help us. Vista's slipping ship date will help us. We're certainly not out of this race by any means, but I wonder, like you... What's next. How can we bring firefox behind the corporate firewalls, where IE6 lives undisturbed? Should the next spread firefox initiative be a call for users to spread the word inside their companies? If we were to provide sharp marketing materials for IT managers and decision makers coupled with well tested enterprise deployment and managment tools, could we really dig in in corporate networks? Lots to think about... I'm still wrapping my head around where flock fits in in all of this. I know it has a place, but as a once-or-two-times-a-day blogger, it really needs to be more tightly integrated with my firefox settings, history, bookmarks, etc. If I could swap back and forth between firefox and flock like different skins of the same browser, I would be a very happy camper. -Eric As a supporter of the NY Times Ad and contributor to Firefox Flicks, I’ve been wondering the exact same thing. The mighty charge to the top of the hill seems to be over. The flicks campaign really did feel like preaching to the choir.

Meanwhile, Firefox continues to spread like wildfire. Nearing 200 million downloads, it’s reaching a point of market penetration that IE7 may not have a chance of beating, even bundled into Vista.

Perhaps is just that we’ve won in so many ways, we’re not sure what the next battle is. Perhaps it’s that we’re arrogant enough to believe that people won’t slip back to IE once 7 finally fixes the biggest bugs. Perhaps is that now that the competition has aped our best stuff, we don’t actually know if we’re better.

As a user, the thing that will keep me on firefox for the forseeable future is the easy extensibility. The first thing I do after downloading is install adblock plus, filterset G, the web developer plugin, and forecast fox. I’m sure every other power-user has a different set of favorite plugins and extensions. For microsoft to compete with that, they’ll need an open API for extending their browser and a community of developers.

Being truly cross platform will help us. Supporting windows 2000 (and earlier, something IE7 is NOT expected to do) will help us. Vista’s slipping ship date will help us. We’re certainly not out of this race by any means, but I wonder, like you… What’s next. How can we bring firefox behind the corporate firewalls, where IE6 lives undisturbed?

Should the next spread firefox initiative be a call for users to spread the word inside their companies? If we were to provide sharp marketing materials for IT managers and decision makers coupled with well tested enterprise deployment and managment tools, could we really dig in in corporate networks?

Lots to think about… I’m still wrapping my head around where flock fits in in all of this. I know it has a place, but as a once-or-two-times-a-day blogger, it really needs to be more tightly integrated with my firefox settings, history, bookmarks, etc. If I could swap back and forth between firefox and flock like different skins of the same browser, I would be a very happy camper.

-Eric

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