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		<title>By: The end of Web Two Dot Oh (drink!) at FactoryCity</title>
		<link>http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2006/10/19/the-beast-has-awoken-or-the-beginning-of-web-20/comment-page-1/#comment-45731</link>
		<dc:creator>The end of Web Two Dot Oh (drink!) at FactoryCity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2007 22:23:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of dollars and cents over T &amp; A, I have to wonder whether the short period of Web 2.0-ness that began with the launch of IE7 has already come haltingly to an [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] of dollars and cents over T &#38; A, I have to wonder whether the short period of Web 2.0-ness that began with the launch of IE7 has already come haltingly to an [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Danilo Stern-Sapad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Danilo Stern-Sapad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Nov 2006 10:43:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like you Chris, I own a PowerMac G5, so even if IE7 boasts new features I&#039;ll never experience them as they ceased support for Mac OS X (though I have used Beta to test some layouts). I actually wrote an article on my own blog about how Microsoft is making a huge mistake by not supporting or rather ignoring other platforms. I&#039;m not a Firefox fanboi or anything, I think the browser has a lot of problems but IE has more. I have to say I personally alternate between Firfox 2 and OmniWeb. Firefox sometimes runs a little slow cause it&#039;s a RAM hog so I have to switch browsers. As with Mozilla Songbird versus Apple iTunes, I think some people may choose to use browsers like IE7 or Safari cause the interfaces look nicer and because they don&#039;t need or are not interested in all the plugins that Firefox offers like the Web Developer Toolbar or the User Agent Switcher to name a couple.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like you Chris, I own a PowerMac G5, so even if IE7 boasts new features I&#8217;ll never experience them as they ceased support for Mac OS X (though I have used Beta to test some layouts). I actually wrote an article on my own blog about how Microsoft is making a huge mistake by not supporting or rather ignoring other platforms. I&#8217;m not a Firefox fanboi or anything, I think the browser has a lot of problems but IE has more. I have to say I personally alternate between Firfox 2 and OmniWeb. Firefox sometimes runs a little slow cause it&#8217;s a RAM hog so I have to switch browsers. As with Mozilla Songbird versus Apple iTunes, I think some people may choose to use browsers like IE7 or Safari cause the interfaces look nicer and because they don&#8217;t need or are not interested in all the plugins that Firefox offers like the Web Developer Toolbar or the User Agent Switcher to name a couple.</p>
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		<title>By: Steven Hellings</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steven Hellings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Oct 2006 23:18:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post Chris.  You will always be my favorite liberal!  Seriously miss the times when we where pulling off the New York Times success.  Congrats on the relationship you make an attractive couple. Drop me a line.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post Chris.  You will always be my favorite liberal!  Seriously miss the times when we where pulling off the New York Times success.  Congrats on the relationship you make an attractive couple. Drop me a line.</p>
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		<title>By: wizardB</title>
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		<dc:creator>wizardB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Oct 2006 13:20:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IE7 is a big yawn,typical of microsoft these days.Vista and IE7 will go do as 2 of the biggest non events 2006 2007</description>
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		<title>By: roots.lab &#187; October 2006 &#8212; &#34;the true beginning of web2.0&#34;</title>
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		<dc:creator>roots.lab &#187; October 2006 &#8212; &#34;the true beginning of web2.0&#34;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Oct 2006 18:34:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Not according to Chris Messina: &#8230; the launch of Internet Explorer 7 represents the true beginning of Web 2.0 because the vast majority of folks who have been living on borrowed time, using the spyware prone and popup-riddled previous version of IE, now have a capable browserâ€¦ one thatâ€™s just as fast as what the rest of us are used to, with tabs and support for feed and CSS standards. And itâ€™s delivered automatically, without a thought or a care necessary. So what comes next is where things get interesting. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Not according to Chris Messina: &#8230; the launch of Internet Explorer 7 represents the true beginning of Web 2.0 because the vast majority of folks who have been living on borrowed time, using the spyware prone and popup-riddled previous version of IE, now have a capable browserâ€¦ one thatâ€™s just as fast as what the rest of us are used to, with tabs and support for feed and CSS standards. And itâ€™s delivered automatically, without a thought or a care necessary. So what comes next is where things get interesting. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Safe as Milk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Safe as Milk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Oct 2006 11:44:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;&quot;The Message: Practicality and Usability more important than Open Source&quot;...&lt;/strong&gt;


Mozilla Firefox 2 marketing will focus on functionality and the chase for market share, rather than the fact that it&#039;s free software.

I am not the only one who is disturbed by this strategy. That&#039;s not because I&#039;m a free software zealot, but becau...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>&#8220;The Message: Practicality and Usability more important than Open Source&#8221;&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Mozilla Firefox 2 marketing will focus on functionality and the chase for market share, rather than the fact that it&#8217;s free software.</p>
<p>I am not the only one who is disturbed by this strategy. That&#8217;s not because I&#8217;m a free software zealot, but becau&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Filter for 23/10 2006 - Felt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Filter for 23/10 2006 - Felt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Oct 2006 05:48:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] FactoryCity: The beast has awoken; or, The beginning of Web 2.0 &#8220;With the launch of Internet Explorer 7, should Firefox and open source advocates generally continue to promote Firefox as a product or instead focus on promoting the movement and ideology of co-production and gift economics that produced Firefox.&#8221; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] FactoryCity: The beast has awoken; or, The beginning of Web 2.0 &#8220;With the launch of Internet Explorer 7, should Firefox and open source advocates generally continue to promote Firefox as a product or instead focus on promoting the movement and ideology of co-production and gift economics that produced Firefox.&#8221; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: David Levin</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Levin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Oct 2006 23:43:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good article.  I would lhave liked to see more information on the specific features of IE compared to Firefox.  Also, I would&#039;ve liked to see more information on some of the problems still being worked on my Microsoft.

Other than that, it was very clearly written and had some good points.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good article.  I would lhave liked to see more information on the specific features of IE compared to Firefox.  Also, I would&#8217;ve liked to see more information on some of the problems still being worked on my Microsoft.</p>
<p>Other than that, it was very clearly written and had some good points.</p>
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		<title>By: oomu</title>
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		<dc:creator>oomu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Oct 2006 14:43:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>a what??

you really dig ie7 as a better future for the web??

people! the web is not the navigator, it&#039;s inside the navigator.

what bring firefox/safari/opera is not only a decent software but tools for designer to create better website.

it is a lot of important than an other ui-breakdown to windows than ie7.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>a what??</p>
<p>you really dig ie7 as a better future for the web??</p>
<p>people! the web is not the navigator, it&#8217;s inside the navigator.</p>
<p>what bring firefox/safari/opera is not only a decent software but tools for designer to create better website.</p>
<p>it is a lot of important than an other ui-breakdown to windows than ie7.</p>
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		<title>By: X</title>
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		<dc:creator>X</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Oct 2006 22:06:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IE7 has made switch to Firefox.. 

I don&#039;t know what they were thinking when they came up with a UI that sits the stop, refresh, and home buttons on the OPPOSITE side
of the screen as the back and forward buttons.. uggh..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IE7 has made switch to Firefox.. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know what they were thinking when they came up with a UI that sits the stop, refresh, and home buttons on the OPPOSITE side<br />
of the screen as the back and forward buttons.. uggh..</p>
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