Comments on: Technology for the future: MacFUSE http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2007/01/25/technology-for-the-future-macfuse/ This can all be made better. Ready? Begin. Fri, 05 Sep 2008 19:40:07 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: Daryl http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2007/01/25/technology-for-the-future-macfuse/#comment-47227 Daryl Mon, 29 Jan 2007 14:34:10 +0000 http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2007/01/25/technology-for-the-future-macfuse/#comment-47227 I eagerly await your clarification! I don't mean to be such a wet blanket -- I think I'm just something of a luddite at heart and have to be dragged along. :) I eagerly await your clarification! I don’t mean to be such a wet blanket — I think I’m just something of a luddite at heart and have to be dragged along. :)

]]> By: Chris Messina http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2007/01/25/technology-for-the-future-macfuse/#comment-46472 Chris Messina Fri, 26 Jan 2007 21:54:32 +0000 http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2007/01/25/technology-for-the-future-macfuse/#comment-46472 Hey Daryl, It's so funny that you seem consistently able to debunk my enthusiasm. ;) It really pushes me to clarify my vision and why things excite me! As for your point, I have to write more about it, and then you'll understand why it's so interesting to me. RSS and Gmail are only simple examples with obvious object types (posts and messages, respectively). What I have in mind is so much more interesting that I think you'll agree with where I'm coming from once I explain it. Hey Daryl,

It’s so funny that you seem consistently able to debunk my enthusiasm. ;) It really pushes me to clarify my vision and why things excite me!

As for your point, I have to write more about it, and then you’ll understand why it’s so interesting to me. RSS and Gmail are only simple examples with obvious object types (posts and messages, respectively). What I have in mind is so much more interesting that I think you’ll agree with where I’m coming from once I explain it.

]]> By: Daryl http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2007/01/25/technology-for-the-future-macfuse/#comment-46470 Daryl Fri, 26 Jan 2007 21:47:08 +0000 http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2007/01/25/technology-for-the-future-macfuse/#comment-46470 I'm not sure I understand the benefit of being able to browse something like gmail as if it were a filesystem. Isn't what gmail offers the snazzy ui that makes mail more manageable? Same for feeds. I don't see why I'd need to treat feed items like files when there are applications that are built to facilitate convenient viewing of them. I suppose there's potential value in being able to see things like this as files if you're wanting to do some sort of text analysis (maybe a dashboard widget that scans all your feeds and mail for certain strings and pops those items up in nice Macish light-blue bubbles or something). Is it that sort of mashability that you find so tantalizing? If so, it's not for me, but I guess I can see the appeal to many. I’m not sure I understand the benefit of being able to browse something like gmail as if it were a filesystem. Isn’t what gmail offers the snazzy ui that makes mail more manageable? Same for feeds. I don’t see why I’d need to treat feed items like files when there are applications that are built to facilitate convenient viewing of them.

I suppose there’s potential value in being able to see things like this as files if you’re wanting to do some sort of text analysis (maybe a dashboard widget that scans all your feeds and mail for certain strings and pops those items up in nice Macish light-blue bubbles or something). Is it that sort of mashability that you find so tantalizing? If so, it’s not for me, but I guess I can see the appeal to many.

]]> By: Jeff Lindsay http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2007/01/25/technology-for-the-future-macfuse/#comment-46348 Jeff Lindsay Fri, 26 Jan 2007 15:30:21 +0000 http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2007/01/25/technology-for-the-future-macfuse/#comment-46348 I had this exact sort of revelation when Alex Russell was showing me the Jot database technology. Basically, what FUSE creates the potential for was already quite possible using WebDAV. WebDAV is really just a protocol extension to HTTP, but the very cool thing about it is that you can *already natively mount it on every popular operating system* including Windows, Linux, and OS X. Mount it. Like a local file system. Much like HTTP was originally intended to directly expose a limited set of the server's filesystem, that's how DAV has been used for the most part so far. Obviously though, the server implementation can choose not to expose an actual file system, but a virtual file system... So with Jot, their database being a very awesome tree-representable node graph, they have an interface to their database via DAV, meaning you can navigate the database quite transparently through the local file system. What's more, is for every node in the database, you'd get a directory containing several representations of that node (XML, HTML, plain text, etc) that you could open and change, hit save and it would be written to the database. That's when I realized the power of DAV, but not just that, the idea of using the local file system as an interface to very non-file-related systems, like web services, etc. I'm not sure why WebDAV isn't taken advantage more in this way, but I guess we'll see a lot more of this sort of thing with MacFUSE... for whatever reason... oh yeah, cause you're blogging about it and evangelizing it. :P That reminds me, let's talk about web hooks more sometime? I had this exact sort of revelation when Alex Russell was showing me the Jot database technology. Basically, what FUSE creates the potential for was already quite possible using WebDAV.

WebDAV is really just a protocol extension to HTTP, but the very cool thing about it is that you can *already natively mount it on every popular operating system* including Windows, Linux, and OS X. Mount it. Like a local file system.

Much like HTTP was originally intended to directly expose a limited set of the server’s filesystem, that’s how DAV has been used for the most part so far. Obviously though, the server implementation can choose not to expose an actual file system, but a virtual file system…

So with Jot, their database being a very awesome tree-representable node graph, they have an interface to their database via DAV, meaning you can navigate the database quite transparently through the local file system. What’s more, is for every node in the database, you’d get a directory containing several representations of that node (XML, HTML, plain text, etc) that you could open and change, hit save and it would be written to the database.

That’s when I realized the power of DAV, but not just that, the idea of using the local file system as an interface to very non-file-related systems, like web services, etc.

I’m not sure why WebDAV isn’t taken advantage more in this way, but I guess we’ll see a lot more of this sort of thing with MacFUSE… for whatever reason… oh yeah, cause you’re blogging about it and evangelizing it. :P

That reminds me, let’s talk about web hooks more sometime?

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