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		<title>By: links for 2008-04-01 &#124; Chris Dalby Untangles Networks</title>
		<link>http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2007/04/21/raising-the-standard-for-avatars/#comment-98847</link>
		<dc:creator>links for 2008-04-01 &#124; Chris Dalby Untangles Networks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 23:37:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] FactoryCity Â» Raising the standard for avatars Bloody good ideas for standards on avatars. Just the sort of thing I was thinking for @chinposin. (tags: chinposin avatars standards hcard) [...]&lt;div class="comment-remix-meta"&gt;&lt;a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('98847','links for 2008-04-01 &#124; Chris Dalby Untangles Networks'); return false;"&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('98847','links for 2008-04-01 &#124; Chris Dalby Untangles Networks','&#38;#91;...&#38;#93; FactoryCity &#194;&#187; Raising the standard for avatars Bloody good ideas for standards on avatars. Just the sort of thing I was thinking for @chinposin. (tags: chinposin avatars standards hcard) &#38;#91;...&#38;#93;'); return false;"&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] FactoryCity Â» Raising the standard for avatars Bloody good ideas for standards on avatars. Just the sort of thing I was thinking for @chinposin. (tags: chinposin avatars standards hcard) [...]
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		<title>By: sylvia</title>
		<link>http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2007/04/21/raising-the-standard-for-avatars/#comment-87153</link>
		<dc:creator>sylvia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Aug 2007 09:40:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>omg i was searching 'avatar' in Google images and yours popped up.... weird. lol

how the hell you been?&lt;div class="comment-remix-meta"&gt;&lt;a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('87153','sylvia'); return false;"&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('87153','sylvia','omg i was searching \'avatar\' in Google images and yours popped up.... weird. lol\r\n\r\nhow the hell you been?'); return false;"&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>omg i was searching &#8216;avatar&#8217; in Google images and yours popped up&#8230;. weird. lol</p>
<p>how the hell you been?
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		<title>By: Four Starters - &#187; OpenAvatar - Combining OpenID and hCard</title>
		<link>http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2007/04/21/raising-the-standard-for-avatars/#comment-86040</link>
		<dc:creator>Four Starters - &#187; OpenAvatar - Combining OpenID and hCard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2007 09:09:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] by the recent post by Chris Messina (&#8220;Raising the standard for avatars&#8221;), I started to think how we could do this using [...]&lt;div class="comment-remix-meta"&gt;&lt;a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('86040','Four Starters - &#38;raquo; OpenAvatar - Combining OpenID and hCard'); return false;"&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('86040','Four Starters - &#38;raquo; OpenAvatar - Combining OpenID and hCard','&#38;#91;...&#38;#93; by the recent post by Chris Messina (&#38;ldquo;Raising the standard for avatars&#38;rdquo;), I started to think how we could do this using &#38;#91;...&#38;#93;'); return false;"&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] by the recent post by Chris Messina (&ldquo;Raising the standard for avatars&rdquo;), I started to think how we could do this using [...]
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		<title>By: Alper Ãƒâ€¡uÃ„Å¸un</title>
		<link>http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2007/04/21/raising-the-standard-for-avatars/#comment-86012</link>
		<dc:creator>Alper Ãƒâ€¡uÃ„Å¸un</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2007 10:44:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let's just do this.

We wanted to include avatars on our weblog FourStarters.com and my friend Cristiano added some kind of plugin to pull these from MyBlogLog.

We had some minor issues configuring mybloglog, but why should we use yet another third party site to store profile information when most of this is already in OpenID. FourStarters supports OpenID for comments (with wpopenid) already, pulling in the avatars from there looks like a tiny step.

hCard already has class="photo". So what to do? Embed or link hCard to your openid?&lt;div class="comment-remix-meta"&gt;&lt;a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('86012','Alper &#195;ƒ&#226;€&#161;u&#195;„&#197;&#184;un'); return false;"&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('86012','Alper &#195;ƒ&#226;€&#161;u&#195;„&#197;&#184;un','Let\'s just do this.\r\n\r\nWe wanted to include avatars on our weblog FourStarters.com and my friend Cristiano added some kind of plugin to pull these from MyBlogLog.\r\n\r\nWe had some minor issues configuring mybloglog, but why should we use yet another third party site to store profile information when most of this is already in OpenID. FourStarters supports OpenID for comments (with wpopenid) already, pulling in the avatars from there looks like a tiny step.\r\n\r\nhCard already has class=\&#34;photo\&#34;. So what to do? Embed or link hCard to your openid?'); return false;"&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s just do this.</p>
<p>We wanted to include avatars on our weblog FourStarters.com and my friend Cristiano added some kind of plugin to pull these from MyBlogLog.</p>
<p>We had some minor issues configuring mybloglog, but why should we use yet another third party site to store profile information when most of this is already in OpenID. FourStarters supports OpenID for comments (with wpopenid) already, pulling in the avatars from there looks like a tiny step.</p>
<p>hCard already has class=&#8221;photo&#8221;. So what to do? Embed or link hCard to your openid?
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('86012','Alper &Atilde;ƒ&acirc;€&iexcl;u&Atilde;„&Aring;&cedil;un'); return false;">Reply</a>  - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('86012','Alper &Atilde;ƒ&acirc;€&iexcl;u&Atilde;„&Aring;&cedil;un','Let\'s just do this.\r\n\r\nWe wanted to include avatars on our weblog FourStarters.com and my friend Cristiano added some kind of plugin to pull these from MyBlogLog.\r\n\r\nWe had some minor issues configuring mybloglog, but why should we use yet another third party site to store profile information when most of this is already in OpenID. FourStarters supports OpenID for comments (with wpopenid) already, pulling in the avatars from there looks like a tiny step.\r\n\r\nhCard already has class=\&quot;photo\&quot;. So what to do? Embed or link hCard to your openid?'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Arun Vijayan</title>
		<link>http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2007/04/21/raising-the-standard-for-avatars/#comment-85069</link>
		<dc:creator>Arun Vijayan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2007 20:38:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was fantastic. I too was thinking about Avatars in the same way. Magic URLs are really not good. With RubyonRails, Codeigniter and similar 'next gen' web frameworks won't support serving a JPEG from web root (ocourse u can hack it though). Probably Mattias' idea must work better. I look forward to see how it goes.

But ultimately we need a reputation management and aggregation system which does all these (friends,avatars,profile,geolocation). Will MySpace think this way? Will they setup openIDs for members (like AOL did)?&lt;div class="comment-remix-meta"&gt;&lt;a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('85069','Arun Vijayan'); return false;"&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('85069','Arun Vijayan','It was fantastic. I too was thinking about Avatars in the same way. Magic URLs are really not good. With RubyonRails, Codeigniter and similar \'next gen\' web frameworks won\'t support serving a JPEG from web root (ocourse u can hack it though). Probably Mattias\' idea must work better. I look forward to see how it goes.\r\n\r\nBut ultimately we need a reputation management and aggregation system which does all these (friends,avatars,profile,geolocation). Will MySpace think this way? Will they setup openIDs for members (like AOL did)?'); return false;"&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was fantastic. I too was thinking about Avatars in the same way. Magic URLs are really not good. With RubyonRails, Codeigniter and similar &#8216;next gen&#8217; web frameworks won&#8217;t support serving a JPEG from web root (ocourse u can hack it though). Probably Mattias&#8217; idea must work better. I look forward to see how it goes.</p>
<p>But ultimately we need a reputation management and aggregation system which does all these (friends,avatars,profile,geolocation). Will MySpace think this way? Will they setup openIDs for members (like AOL did)?
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		<title>By: Chris Messina</title>
		<link>http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2007/04/21/raising-the-standard-for-avatars/#comment-82926</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Messina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Apr 2007 17:41:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I now believe that magic URLs are also a bad idea and that something more like rel-avatar or rel-photo in the context of an hcard should suffice.&lt;div class="comment-remix-meta"&gt;&lt;a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('82926','Chris Messina'); return false;"&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('82926','Chris Messina','Yeah, I now believe that magic URLs are also a bad idea and that something more like rel-avatar or rel-photo in the context of an hcard should suffice.'); return false;"&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I now believe that magic URLs are also a bad idea and that something more like rel-avatar or rel-photo in the context of an hcard should suffice.
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		<title>By: Daniel E. Renfer</title>
		<link>http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2007/04/21/raising-the-standard-for-avatars/#comment-82609</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel E. Renfer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Apr 2007 03:08:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Edward that magic URLs are something that we should probably be avoiding.

Personally, I'd rather see people linking to a FOAF file (or hCard or RDFa if you prefer) and from there provide links to the various resolutions of avatars.

While FOAF can be difficult at times for the average user, a couple highly ranked tutorials providing people the text that they can copy/paste would take care of that.&lt;div class="comment-remix-meta"&gt;&lt;a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('82609','Daniel E. Renfer'); return false;"&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('82609','Daniel E. Renfer','I agree with Edward that magic URLs are something that we should probably be avoiding.\r\n\r\nPersonally, I\'d rather see people linking to a FOAF file (or hCard or RDFa if you prefer) and from there provide links to the various resolutions of avatars.\r\n\r\nWhile FOAF can be difficult at times for the average user, a couple highly ranked tutorials providing people the text that they can copy\/paste would take care of that.'); return false;"&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Edward that magic URLs are something that we should probably be avoiding.</p>
<p>Personally, I&#8217;d rather see people linking to a FOAF file (or hCard or RDFa if you prefer) and from there provide links to the various resolutions of avatars.</p>
<p>While FOAF can be difficult at times for the average user, a couple highly ranked tutorials providing people the text that they can copy/paste would take care of that.
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		<title>By: Edward O'Connor</title>
		<link>http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2007/04/21/raising-the-standard-for-avatars/#comment-82486</link>
		<dc:creator>Edward O'Connor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2007 21:27:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://bitworking.org/news/No_Fishing" rel="nofollow"&gt;Fixed URIs like &lt;code&gt;robots.txt&lt;/code&gt; and &lt;code&gt;favicon.ico&lt;/code&gt; are bad&lt;/a&gt;, but otherwise I love the idea. Perhaps something along the lines of feed autodiscovery would be workable?

(Also, somethings messed up with your OpenID auth -- I've had to leave that field blank in order to comment at all.)&lt;div class="comment-remix-meta"&gt;&lt;a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('82486','Edward O\'Connor'); return false;"&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('82486','Edward O\'Connor','&#60;a href=\&#34;http:\/\/bitworking.org\/news\/No_Fishing\&#34; rel=\&#34;nofollow\&#34;&#62;Fixed URIs like &#60;code&#62;robots.txt&#60;\/code&#62; and &#60;code&#62;favicon.ico&#60;\/code&#62; are bad&#60;\/a&#62;, but otherwise I love the idea. Perhaps something along the lines of feed autodiscovery would be workable?\r\n\r\n(Also, somethings messed up with your OpenID auth -- I\'ve had to leave that field blank in order to comment at all.)'); return false;"&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://bitworking.org/news/No_Fishing" rel="nofollow">Fixed URIs like <code>robots.txt</code> and <code>favicon.ico</code> are bad</a>, but otherwise I love the idea. Perhaps something along the lines of feed autodiscovery would be workable?</p>
<p>(Also, somethings messed up with your OpenID auth &#8212; I&#8217;ve had to leave that field blank in order to comment at all.)
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('82486','Edward O\'Connor'); return false;">Reply</a>  - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('82486','Edward O\'Connor','&lt;a href=\&quot;http:\/\/bitworking.org\/news\/No_Fishing\&quot; rel=\&quot;nofollow\&quot;&gt;Fixed URIs like &lt;code&gt;robots.txt&lt;\/code&gt; and &lt;code&gt;favicon.ico&lt;\/code&gt; are bad&lt;\/a&gt;, but otherwise I love the idea. Perhaps something along the lines of feed autodiscovery would be workable?\r\n\r\n(Also, somethings messed up with your OpenID auth -- I\'ve had to leave that field blank in order to comment at all.)'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: hugh don</title>
		<link>http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2007/04/21/raising-the-standard-for-avatars/#comment-81259</link>
		<dc:creator>hugh don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2007 04:36:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's sounds like a good idea!&lt;div class="comment-remix-meta"&gt;&lt;a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('81259','hugh don'); return false;"&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('81259','hugh don','It\'s sounds like a good idea!'); return false;"&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s sounds like a good idea!
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		<title>By: Shoob &#187; Blog Archive &#187; links for 2007-04-23</title>
		<link>http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2007/04/21/raising-the-standard-for-avatars/#comment-79544</link>
		<dc:creator>Shoob &#187; Blog Archive &#187; links for 2007-04-23</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2007 16:19:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Raising the standard for avatars Chris Messina se penche sur les avatars . Il nous partage une idÃƒÂ©e qu&#8217;il avait essayÃƒÂ© de pousser sur Flock pour trouver un format avatar ÃƒÂ  l&#8217;instar des microformats. (tags: microformats openid identity standards web) [...]&lt;div class="comment-remix-meta"&gt;&lt;a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('79544','Shoob &#38;raquo; Blog Archive &#38;raquo; links for 2007-04-23'); return false;"&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('79544','Shoob &#38;raquo; Blog Archive &#38;raquo; links for 2007-04-23','&#38;#91;...&#38;#93; Raising the standard for avatars Chris Messina se penche sur les avatars . Il nous partage une id&#195;ƒ&#194;&#169;e qu&#38;#8217;il avait essay&#195;ƒ&#194;&#169; de pousser sur Flock pour trouver un format avatar &#195;ƒ&#194;&#160; l&#38;#8217;instar des microformats. (tags: microformats openid identity standards web) &#38;#91;...&#38;#93;'); return false;"&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Raising the standard for avatars Chris Messina se penche sur les avatars . Il nous partage une idÃƒÂ©e qu&#8217;il avait essayÃƒÂ© de pousser sur Flock pour trouver un format avatar ÃƒÂ  l&#8217;instar des microformats. (tags: microformats openid identity standards web) [...]
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