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	<title>Comments on: A different kind of net neutrality: Carbon Offsetting Web 2.0</title>
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		<title>By: David Comdico</title>
		<link>http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2007/04/23/a-different-kind-of-net-neutrality-carbon-offsetting-web-20/#comment-85920</link>
		<dc:creator>David Comdico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 18:02:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carbon offsetting strikes me as not only absurd but the contemporary equivalent of buying a seat in heaven. With your own personalized nameplate even.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carbon offsetting strikes me as not only absurd but the contemporary equivalent of buying a seat in heaven. With your own personalized nameplate even.</p>
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		<title>By: http-www.philaestheta.com-</title>
		<link>http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2007/04/23/a-different-kind-of-net-neutrality-carbon-offsetting-web-20/#comment-84849</link>
		<dc:creator>http-www.philaestheta.com-</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2007 08:27:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>maybe this is old news, but dreamhost.com also made all their hosting carbon neutral - http://blog.dreamhost.com/2007/04/20/were-green/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>maybe this is old news, but dreamhost.com also made all their hosting carbon neutral - <a href="http://blog.dreamhost.com/2007/04/20/were-green/" rel="nofollow">http://blog.dreamhost.com/2007/04/20/were-green/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Rob Cottingham &#187; links for 2007-04-30</title>
		<link>http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2007/04/23/a-different-kind-of-net-neutrality-carbon-offsetting-web-20/#comment-83436</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Cottingham &#187; links for 2007-04-30</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2007 02:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] A different kind of net neutrality: Carbon Offsetting Web 2.0 Chris Messina proposes having web apps offer carbon offsets so users can erase the footprint of using their service (and get a swanky little green avatar in the process). Cool idea! (tags: environment web application premium carbon offset climate_change) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] A different kind of net neutrality: Carbon Offsetting Web 2.0 Chris Messina proposes having web apps offer carbon offsets so users can erase the footprint of using their service (and get a swanky little green avatar in the process). Cool idea! (tags: environment web application premium carbon offset climate_change) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Rowe</title>
		<link>http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2007/04/23/a-different-kind-of-net-neutrality-carbon-offsetting-web-20/#comment-83222</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Rowe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Apr 2007 12:10:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that this is a terrific idea. 

People who are choosing to go green do want to be recognised for it.

And for many of us who are addicted to social sites like flickr or last.fm, an extra dollar onto our account fee is a simple way to gain that recognition</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that this is a terrific idea. </p>
<p>People who are choosing to go green do want to be recognised for it.</p>
<p>And for many of us who are addicted to social sites like flickr or last.fm, an extra dollar onto our account fee is a simple way to gain that recognition</p>
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		<title>By: Thor Muller</title>
		<link>http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2007/04/23/a-different-kind-of-net-neutrality-carbon-offsetting-web-20/#comment-81414</link>
		<dc:creator>Thor Muller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2007 07:59:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love the idea of simple web services that make it easy to "do the right thing." Few of us have the spare cycles to do this (and other social/environmental activism) well, so anything that takes the guesswork and pain out of it has the potential to have a huge impact.  Let's make it easy for a lot more people and companies to say "yes!"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love the idea of simple web services that make it easy to &#8220;do the right thing.&#8221; Few of us have the spare cycles to do this (and other social/environmental activism) well, so anything that takes the guesswork and pain out of it has the potential to have a huge impact.  Let&#8217;s make it easy for a lot more people and companies to say &#8220;yes!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Caterina Fake</title>
		<link>http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2007/04/23/a-different-kind-of-net-neutrality-carbon-offsetting-web-20/#comment-80696</link>
		<dc:creator>Caterina Fake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2007 16:45:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, there's some controversy around carbon offsets, and I'd love to hear if anyone has done research on which programs are better than others. I went with &lt;a href="http://www.carbonfund.org/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Carbon Fund&lt;/a&gt; but didn't do a lot of research in advance.

And yes, like Chris says, putting in a little extra, more than covers your own consumption, makes up for all the people who don't!

If there's some research on ppl wanting the tiny PRO label on their name vs. unlimited storage, I'd love to see it. :-) But I don't deny it's a very strong incentive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, there&#8217;s some controversy around carbon offsets, and I&#8217;d love to hear if anyone has done research on which programs are better than others. I went with <a href="http://www.carbonfund.org/" rel="nofollow">Carbon Fund</a> but didn&#8217;t do a lot of research in advance.</p>
<p>And yes, like Chris says, putting in a little extra, more than covers your own consumption, makes up for all the people who don&#8217;t!</p>
<p>If there&#8217;s some research on ppl wanting the tiny PRO label on their name vs. unlimited storage, I&#8217;d love to see it. <img src='http://factoryjoe.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> But I don&#8217;t deny it&#8217;s a very strong incentive.</p>
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		<title>By: Alexander Muse</title>
		<link>http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2007/04/23/a-different-kind-of-net-neutrality-carbon-offsetting-web-20/#comment-79500</link>
		<dc:creator>Alexander Muse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2007 14:36:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At first I was really against the concept of 'carbon offsets'.  Dallas is the capital of non-profit organizations designed to 'enrich' those who run them so I am always skeptical of such 'charitable' efforts.  So why have I changed my mind?

First, it is hard to argue that there isn't HUGE money to be made in the 'carbon offset' business (literally billions of dollars).  Almost every player in the space today is in it for themselves, playing lip service to the environment.  If there could be a model whereby NO ONE made any money or directed the flow of money the idea could work.

How do you build an infrastructure that uses or directs 0% of the funds it collects?  How can we impact the environment without lining someones pockets?  Hmm...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At first I was really against the concept of &#8216;carbon offsets&#8217;.  Dallas is the capital of non-profit organizations designed to &#8216;enrich&#8217; those who run them so I am always skeptical of such &#8216;charitable&#8217; efforts.  So why have I changed my mind?</p>
<p>First, it is hard to argue that there isn&#8217;t HUGE money to be made in the &#8216;carbon offset&#8217; business (literally billions of dollars).  Almost every player in the space today is in it for themselves, playing lip service to the environment.  If there could be a model whereby NO ONE made any money or directed the flow of money the idea could work.</p>
<p>How do you build an infrastructure that uses or directs 0% of the funds it collects?  How can we impact the environment without lining someones pockets?  Hmm&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Abhay Kumar</title>
		<link>http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2007/04/23/a-different-kind-of-net-neutrality-carbon-offsetting-web-20/#comment-79278</link>
		<dc:creator>Abhay Kumar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2007 08:58:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of the many things I'm really proud that we did at Gotham Ruby Conference in our inaugural year is that we offset the carbon footprint of our speakers and attendees (including travel, etc.) by &lt;a href="http://goruco.com/articles/2007/04/21/carbon-offsets/" rel="nofollow"&gt; 45 tons&lt;/a&gt;. Unfortunately the calculations weren't precise by any means but I'm sure we'll be looking to continue this precedent. 

We went with climatefriendly.org, an Australian organization affiliated with the World Wildlife Fund. They fund Gold Standard-accredited clean energy projects in Australia, so we feel reasonably secure that our donation was going to effective work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the many things I&#8217;m really proud that we did at Gotham Ruby Conference in our inaugural year is that we offset the carbon footprint of our speakers and attendees (including travel, etc.) by <a href="http://goruco.com/articles/2007/04/21/carbon-offsets/" rel="nofollow"> 45 tons</a>. Unfortunately the calculations weren&#8217;t precise by any means but I&#8217;m sure we&#8217;ll be looking to continue this precedent. </p>
<p>We went with climatefriendly.org, an Australian organization affiliated with the World Wildlife Fund. They fund Gold Standard-accredited clean energy projects in Australia, so we feel reasonably secure that our donation was going to effective work.</p>
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