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	<title>Comments on: We found women in tech, so why are you still not reporting about them?</title>
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		<title>By: acidlabs &#187; Calling all Geek&#160;Girls</title>
		<link>http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2007/05/08/we-found-women-in-tech-so-why-are-you-still-not-reporting-about-them/comment-page-1/#comment-99873</link>
		<dc:creator>acidlabs &#187; Calling all Geek&#160;Girls</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 07:14:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Calling all Geek Girls 05.29.07 &#124; No Comments  Hello! Welcome to acidlabs. If you&#8217;re new here, you may want to read about Stephen Collins or subscribe to the RSS feed. Thanks for visiting!Here&#8217;s something for all the Australia-based Geek Girls out there. I know that you&#8217;re all as good as or better than your male counterparts. Unfortunately an often female-blind media rarely gives you the credit you&#160;deserve. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Calling all Geek Girls 05.29.07 | No Comments  Hello! Welcome to acidlabs. If you&#8217;re new here, you may want to read about Stephen Collins or subscribe to the RSS feed. Thanks for visiting!Here&#8217;s something for all the Australia-based Geek Girls out there. I know that you&#8217;re all as good as or better than your male counterparts. Unfortunately an often female-blind media rarely gives you the credit you&nbsp;deserve. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Armand Rousso</title>
		<link>http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2007/05/08/we-found-women-in-tech-so-why-are-you-still-not-reporting-about-them/comment-page-1/#comment-91232</link>
		<dc:creator>Armand Rousso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Sep 2007 10:23:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is undeniable fact that we are contorting the image of women through a fixed ideology or inherited culture in which they find them selves more restricted in all field,However,that not good for our progress.Women should not be discriminated or excluded  from tech community in order to reach the top priority.

Armand Rousso
http://business.armandrousso.biz/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is undeniable fact that we are contorting the image of women through a fixed ideology or inherited culture in which they find them selves more restricted in all field,However,that not good for our progress.Women should not be discriminated or excluded  from tech community in order to reach the top priority.</p>
<p>Armand Rousso<br />
<a href="http://business.armandrousso.biz/" rel="nofollow">http://business.armandrousso.biz/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Lauren</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lauren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2007 13:02:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for this article. Sometimes I really think the fact that I am female, short and look younger than I am is *the* main reason I had such a hard time finding work last year. While I work more in the film/video end of the tech spectrum, it&#039;s much the same in that industry, if not worse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for this article. Sometimes I really think the fact that I am female, short and look younger than I am is *the* main reason I had such a hard time finding work last year. While I work more in the film/video end of the tech spectrum, it&#8217;s much the same in that industry, if not worse.</p>
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		<title>By: Photo Matt » Meaningful Overnight Relationship &#171; Social Orb</title>
		<link>http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2007/05/08/we-found-women-in-tech-so-why-are-you-still-not-reporting-about-them/comment-page-1/#comment-86160</link>
		<dc:creator>Photo Matt » Meaningful Overnight Relationship &#171; Social Orb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jun 2007 07:21:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] multifold danger to this kind of story archetype — one that you allude to — and another that I wrote about of similar impact — where all the founders are not only young but also typically white [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Gabrielle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gabrielle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jun 2007 01:53:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the lady love :) It&#039;s a secret pet peeve of mine actually...since I&#039;ve been accused of not doing my own writing a few times.  I guess I look too female to be smart.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the lady love <img src='http://factoryjoe.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  It&#8217;s a secret pet peeve of mine actually&#8230;since I&#8217;ve been accused of not doing my own writing a few times.  I guess I look too female to be smart.</p>
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		<title>By: Calling all Geek Girls at acidlabs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Calling all Geek Girls at acidlabs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2007 03:19:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Here&#8217;s something for all the Australia-based Geek Girls out there. I know that you&#8217;re all as good as or better than your male counterparts. Unfortunately an often female-blind media rarely gives you the credit you deserve. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Here&#8217;s something for all the Australia-based Geek Girls out there. I know that you&#8217;re all as good as or better than your male counterparts. Unfortunately an often female-blind media rarely gives you the credit you deserve. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The latest take on a very old theme &#171; VeraCity</title>
		<link>http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2007/05/08/we-found-women-in-tech-so-why-are-you-still-not-reporting-about-them/comment-page-1/#comment-86022</link>
		<dc:creator>The latest take on a very old theme &#171; VeraCity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2007 06:39:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] stream press story about it, Tara is ignored and unnamed while top billing goes to co-organizer Chris Messina. Most women in technical professions can tell any number of similar tales. This is one of the great [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] stream press story about it, Tara is ignored and unnamed while top billing goes to co-organizer Chris Messina. Most women in technical professions can tell any number of similar tales. This is one of the great [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Partnership &#38; Possibilities &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Seeing Women in Technology</title>
		<link>http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2007/05/08/we-found-women-in-tech-so-why-are-you-still-not-reporting-about-them/comment-page-1/#comment-86016</link>
		<dc:creator>Partnership &#38; Possibilities &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Seeing Women in Technology</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2007 16:38:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I read further and found a broader, underlying story. Chris Messina wrote  a blog  commenting on the interesting way that the women involved had disappeared from the reporting. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I read further and found a broader, underlying story. Chris Messina wrote  a blog  commenting on the interesting way that the women involved had disappeared from the reporting. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Cathy Edwards</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cathy Edwards</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2007 04:04:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for this post. It&#039;s nice to hear a guy saying this for once rather than the girls having to do all the fighting. It was also good for me to hear it â€“ I have been dealing with this for a long time and honestly, Iâ€™d been beaten down enough that Iâ€™d stopped fighting. I was ok with getting excited if there are more than 10% women in the room with me. I was prepared to deal with the constant machismo/sexism/mild misogynism. But now Iâ€™m all fired up â€“ thanks :)

I believe one of the fundamental barriers to women in tech is the lack of a supportive community. Certainly Iâ€™ve felt like an outsider in this industry forever. Last night, I went home and wrote some code, then I did some sewing. Iâ€™m currently looking for a suitable Louis Vuitton handbag for my new Macbook. It feels like Iâ€™m a walking contradiction â€“ yet why should any of these activities feel contradictory?

Women are not going to participate in tech until they can feel like they can be themselves. From my involvement with the Melbourne IEEE Women in Engineering group, I know that this is a very culturally specific thing â€“ our colleagues in India for example donâ€™t even understand the necessity for such groups, given that there are more women than men in EE engineering over there. And while â€œwomen in techâ€? type activities are necessary and useful, I donâ€™t think they are an answer. I donâ€™t think we can solve it in a blog post, but in general we need more open mindedness, and more challenging of stereotypes. 

Some interesting data - out of a sample of 40 active Twitterers in Melbourne, Australia, 32 are male, 7 are female and 1 is a company. (Caveat - this data was collected very roughly, based on who was visible on twittermaps at 1:30pm AEST Friday 11th May. I assumed that the gender of the person in your photo was your actual gender. I dare say that there are far more non active Twitterers in Melbourne, but I didn&#039;t think that level of activity and gender would be strongly correlated, so I think the data is still reasonable.) A ratio of 5:1 is actually pleasantly surprising, but still not good enough. Letâ€™s not just talk about it â€“ letâ€™s make the change happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this post. It&#8217;s nice to hear a guy saying this for once rather than the girls having to do all the fighting. It was also good for me to hear it â€“ I have been dealing with this for a long time and honestly, Iâ€™d been beaten down enough that Iâ€™d stopped fighting. I was ok with getting excited if there are more than 10% women in the room with me. I was prepared to deal with the constant machismo/sexism/mild misogynism. But now Iâ€™m all fired up â€“ thanks <img src='http://factoryjoe.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I believe one of the fundamental barriers to women in tech is the lack of a supportive community. Certainly Iâ€™ve felt like an outsider in this industry forever. Last night, I went home and wrote some code, then I did some sewing. Iâ€™m currently looking for a suitable Louis Vuitton handbag for my new Macbook. It feels like Iâ€™m a walking contradiction â€“ yet why should any of these activities feel contradictory?</p>
<p>Women are not going to participate in tech until they can feel like they can be themselves. From my involvement with the Melbourne IEEE Women in Engineering group, I know that this is a very culturally specific thing â€“ our colleagues in India for example donâ€™t even understand the necessity for such groups, given that there are more women than men in EE engineering over there. And while â€œwomen in techâ€? type activities are necessary and useful, I donâ€™t think they are an answer. I donâ€™t think we can solve it in a blog post, but in general we need more open mindedness, and more challenging of stereotypes. </p>
<p>Some interesting data &#8211; out of a sample of 40 active Twitterers in Melbourne, Australia, 32 are male, 7 are female and 1 is a company. (Caveat &#8211; this data was collected very roughly, based on who was visible on twittermaps at 1:30pm AEST Friday 11th May. I assumed that the gender of the person in your photo was your actual gender. I dare say that there are far more non active Twitterers in Melbourne, but I didn&#8217;t think that level of activity and gender would be strongly correlated, so I think the data is still reasonable.) A ratio of 5:1 is actually pleasantly surprising, but still not good enough. Letâ€™s not just talk about it â€“ letâ€™s make the change happen.</p>
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		<title>By: Sky's Blog - The Dalai Lama Foundation CTO</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sky's Blog - The Dalai Lama Foundation CTO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2007 03:30:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;I&#8217;m a Turtle - Un-Conferences incorporate the best &#8220;nomadic&#8221; concepts...&lt;/strong&gt;

It&#8217;s a great post that you should just go read - especially if you&#8217;re sick and tired of regular conference presentations and looking for something new.What I like most is that these un-conferences incorporate the best ideas from &#8220;noma...</description>
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<p>It&#8217;s a great post that you should just go read &#8211; especially if you&#8217;re sick and tired of regular conference presentations and looking for something new.What I like most is that these un-conferences incorporate the best ideas from &#8220;noma&#8230;</p>
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