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	<title>Comments on: So Mozilla wants to go mobile, eh?</title>
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		<title>By: A Frog in the Valley &#187; So Mozilla wants to go mobile, eh? &#124; FactoryCity</title>
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		<dc:creator>A Frog in the Valley &#187; So Mozilla wants to go mobile, eh? &#124; FactoryCity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 14:36:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] So Mozilla wants to go mobile by Chris Messina]    This entry was written by Sylvain and posted on 2007/10/12 at 09:38 and filed [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] So Mozilla wants to go mobile by Chris Messina]    This entry was written by Sylvain and posted on 2007/10/12 at 09:38 and filed [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Messina</title>
		<link>http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2007/10/11/so-mozilla-wants-to-go-mobile-eh/#comment-96045</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Messina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 07:03:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your comment Mike. I think it's fair to ask for more constructiveness, so I'll give that a go in the next couple posts I have lined up.

I also made the corrections to the typos you pointed out and softened the Kerry hyperbole. Sometimes I'm too clever for my own good.

I also had not seen Mitchell's post -- thank for that.

I'll also check in on Planet Moz; I admit I didn't look there before posting. Thanks again for the pointers and reasonable response to my somewhat contained, yet-mildly-self-serving rant. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your comment Mike. I think it&#8217;s fair to ask for more constructiveness, so I&#8217;ll give that a go in the next couple posts I have lined up.</p>
<p>I also made the corrections to the typos you pointed out and softened the Kerry hyperbole. Sometimes I&#8217;m too clever for my own good.</p>
<p>I also had not seen Mitchell&#8217;s post &#8212; thank for that.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll also check in on Planet Moz; I admit I didn&#8217;t look there before posting. Thanks again for the pointers and reasonable response to my somewhat contained, yet-mildly-self-serving rant. <img src='http://factoryjoe.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Mike Beltzner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Beltzner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 06:04:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Chris, some corrections: 

- the names are "Schrep" and "Jobs", not "Schep" and "Job"; 
- Mitchell has &lt;a href="http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/mitchell/archives/2007/01/the_mozilla_foundation_achievi.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;talked quite openly about revenue&lt;/a&gt;

Your comments on mobile and how we can be successful are totally welcome in the fora mentioned on Schrep's blog post, and I bet the people who were brought on recently to help us get there would love to benefit from your wisdom and insight. I'm not being facetious, and am not at all interpreting your comments as being grounded in negativity, even if they're presented in a largely non-constructive fashion. Unabashed criticism is more fun to write (and gets better pickup in the trades :), after all. Still, I look forward to seeing some strong suggestions of what we should be modifying in our strategy in order to make things better for the web (like, your point about XUL is well-founded, and I think that there's a lot of similar talk on planet.mozilla.org at the moment about moving away from XUL in Mozilla2, on which the mobile effort will be based).

As for flip-flopping more than John Kerry in a Presidential, I'm not sure, precisely, what makes you think that the community, organization or environment we (and I mean all of us, even you!) exist in is unchanging. The Mozilla community, Foundation and Corporation is growing and evolving on a day by day basis. We do what we can with the resources available, and I'm pretty excited that we've secured dedicated resources for the purposes of working towards a feasible and effective mobile-based Mozilla project.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Chris, some corrections: </p>
<p>- the names are &#8220;Schrep&#8221; and &#8220;Jobs&#8221;, not &#8220;Schep&#8221; and &#8220;Job&#8221;;<br />
- Mitchell has <a href="http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/mitchell/archives/2007/01/the_mozilla_foundation_achievi.html" rel="nofollow">talked quite openly about revenue</a></p>
<p>Your comments on mobile and how we can be successful are totally welcome in the fora mentioned on Schrep&#8217;s blog post, and I bet the people who were brought on recently to help us get there would love to benefit from your wisdom and insight. I&#8217;m not being facetious, and am not at all interpreting your comments as being grounded in negativity, even if they&#8217;re presented in a largely non-constructive fashion. Unabashed criticism is more fun to write (and gets better pickup in the trades :), after all. Still, I look forward to seeing some strong suggestions of what we should be modifying in our strategy in order to make things better for the web (like, your point about XUL is well-founded, and I think that there&#8217;s a lot of similar talk on planet.mozilla.org at the moment about moving away from XUL in Mozilla2, on which the mobile effort will be based).</p>
<p>As for flip-flopping more than John Kerry in a Presidential, I&#8217;m not sure, precisely, what makes you think that the community, organization or environment we (and I mean all of us, even you!) exist in is unchanging. The Mozilla community, Foundation and Corporation is growing and evolving on a day by day basis. We do what we can with the resources available, and I&#8217;m pretty excited that we&#8217;ve secured dedicated resources for the purposes of working towards a feasible and effective mobile-based Mozilla project.</p>
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