Comments on: Slow, steady and iterative wins the race http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2007/12/07/slow-steady-and-iterative-wins-the-race/ This can all be made better. Ready? Begin. Thu, 04 Dec 2008 20:32:37 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7-RC1-10015 hourly 1 By: Searching Da Engines « Every Day I Write The Book http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2007/12/07/slow-steady-and-iterative-wins-the-race/comment-page-1/#comment-97948 Searching Da Engines « Every Day I Write The Book Fri, 28 Dec 2007 00:19:33 +0000 http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2007/12/07/slow-steady-and-iterative-wins-the-race/#comment-97948 [...] a prime example of the latter. Look at the amount of links to other articles and sources going out from his latest post (which I picked, due to the fact that I actually agree with him [a rarity!] and that it covers [...] [...] a prime example of the latter. Look at the amount of links to other articles and sources going out from his latest post (which I picked, due to the fact that I actually agree with him [a rarity!] and that it covers [...]

]]> By: Chris Messina http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2007/12/07/slow-steady-and-iterative-wins-the-race/comment-page-1/#comment-97367 Chris Messina Tue, 11 Dec 2007 17:57:33 +0000 http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2007/12/07/slow-steady-and-iterative-wins-the-race/#comment-97367 @Leisa: Perhaps I shouldn't have used the word "agile" necessarily, but my point was really about those folks who misappropriate the "idea" of agile and simply think that because "agile" is in vogue that it means that products somehow take less time to bake. This isn't true and for some reason I think it sets unreasonable expectations. It isn't that projects take less time because agile methods are employed, it simply means that a different, less water-fall-like method is used to arrive at better results. Being agile really doesn't always result in shorter product development or production release cycles. At least given what I've seen (though I was involved with software development 30 years ago either so everything is relative!). @Leisa: Perhaps I shouldn’t have used the word “agile” necessarily, but my point was really about those folks who misappropriate the “idea” of agile and simply think that because “agile” is in vogue that it means that products somehow take less time to bake.

This isn’t true and for some reason I think it sets unreasonable expectations. It isn’t that projects take less time because agile methods are employed, it simply means that a different, less water-fall-like method is used to arrive at better results. Being agile really doesn’t always result in shorter product development or production release cycles. At least given what I’ve seen (though I was involved with software development 30 years ago either so everything is relative!).

]]> By: Leisa Reichelt http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2007/12/07/slow-steady-and-iterative-wins-the-race/comment-page-1/#comment-97365 Leisa Reichelt Tue, 11 Dec 2007 17:28:38 +0000 http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2007/12/07/slow-steady-and-iterative-wins-the-race/#comment-97365 not that I'm disagreeing with the bulk of what you're saying here (in fact, I'm all for anti-hype)... I'm not sure why this is an anti-agile cry though? What did agile do wrong in all of this? Unless you're equating premature release with agile, which shouldn't be the case unless agile is poorly implemented (which, unfortunately, it frequently is). not that I’m disagreeing with the bulk of what you’re saying here (in fact, I’m all for anti-hype)… I’m not sure why this is an anti-agile cry though? What did agile do wrong in all of this? Unless you’re equating premature release with agile, which shouldn’t be the case unless agile is poorly implemented (which, unfortunately, it frequently is).

]]> By: Tim Walker http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2007/12/07/slow-steady-and-iterative-wins-the-race/comment-page-1/#comment-97310 Tim Walker Fri, 07 Dec 2007 20:49:35 +0000 http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2007/12/07/slow-steady-and-iterative-wins-the-race/#comment-97310 Good stuff, Chris. Reminds me of a general thought I've had before: the Web / tech / geek / social-media world could use more patient thinkers in the mold of Warren Buffett. Yeah, we love the fast pace, but we should also be thinking about building for years and decades, not (only) for 10 days / weeks / months of blogospheric reaction. The juncture may be in the minds of smart tech VCs, who understand both "Internet time" and Buffett-like patience plenty well. Keep up the good work. Good stuff, Chris. Reminds me of a general thought I’ve had before: the Web / tech / geek / social-media world could use more patient thinkers in the mold of Warren Buffett. Yeah, we love the fast pace, but we should also be thinking about building for years and decades, not (only) for 10 days / weeks / months of blogospheric reaction. The juncture may be in the minds of smart tech VCs, who understand both “Internet time” and Buffett-like patience plenty well.

Keep up the good work.

]]> By: Stephane Daury http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2007/12/07/slow-steady-and-iterative-wins-the-race/comment-page-1/#comment-97304 Stephane Daury Fri, 07 Dec 2007 16:49:39 +0000 http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2007/12/07/slow-steady-and-iterative-wins-the-race/#comment-97304 Although I'm passionate about the subject and feel compelled to comment, I'm can't find anything else to say but "couldn't have said it better myself". Please stop being so articulate, you leave me nothing to add! ;-) Although I’m passionate about the subject and feel compelled to comment, I’m can’t find anything else to say but “couldn’t have said it better myself”. Please stop being so articulate, you leave me nothing to add! ;-)

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