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	<title>Comments on: Public nuisance #1: Importing your contacts</title>
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	<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 20:16:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Boxbe Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Boxbe heading to Yahoo! Hack Day</title>
		<link>http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2007/12/19/public-nuisance-1-importing-your-contacts/#comment-100722</link>
		<dc:creator>Boxbe Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Boxbe heading to Yahoo! Hack Day</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 21:43:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] be adding their Address Book API very soon so that we&#8217;re not using that not-so-nice anti-pattern we keep hearing about. We&#8217;re hoping to learn more about it and other APIs that Yahoo! is [...]&lt;div class="comment-remix-meta"&gt;&lt;a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('100722','Boxbe Blog &#38;raquo; Blog Archive &#38;raquo; Boxbe heading to Yahoo! Hack Day'); return false;"&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('100722','Boxbe Blog &#38;raquo; Blog Archive &#38;raquo; Boxbe heading to Yahoo! Hack Day','&#38;#91;...&#38;#93; be adding their Address Book API very soon so that we&#38;#8217;re not using that not-so-nice anti-pattern we keep hearing about. We&#38;#8217;re hoping to learn more about it and other APIs that Yahoo! is &#38;#91;...&#38;#93;'); return false;"&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] be adding their Address Book API very soon so that we&#8217;re not using that not-so-nice anti-pattern we keep hearing about. We&#8217;re hoping to learn more about it and other APIs that Yahoo! is [...]
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('100722','Boxbe Blog &amp;raquo; Blog Archive &amp;raquo; Boxbe heading to Yahoo! Hack Day'); return false;">Reply</a>  - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('100722','Boxbe Blog &amp;raquo; Blog Archive &amp;raquo; Boxbe heading to Yahoo! Hack Day','&amp;#91;...&amp;#93; be adding their Address Book API very soon so that we&amp;#8217;re not using that not-so-nice anti-pattern we keep hearing about. We&amp;#8217;re hoping to learn more about it and other APIs that Yahoo! is &amp;#91;...&amp;#93;'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: This Antipattern is Kryptonite to the Open Social Web at Like It Matters</title>
		<link>http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2007/12/19/public-nuisance-1-importing-your-contacts/#comment-98139</link>
		<dc:creator>This Antipattern is Kryptonite to the Open Social Web at Like It Matters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 14:57:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] keep wagging our collective fingers about this antipattern of asking users to input their credentials for another service but evidently no [...]&lt;div class="comment-remix-meta"&gt;&lt;a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('98139','This Antipattern is Kryptonite to the Open Social Web at Like It Matters'); return false;"&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('98139','This Antipattern is Kryptonite to the Open Social Web at Like It Matters','&#38;#91;...&#38;#93; keep wagging our collective fingers about this antipattern of asking users to input their credentials for another service but evidently no &#38;#91;...&#38;#93;'); return false;"&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] keep wagging our collective fingers about this antipattern of asking users to input their credentials for another service but evidently no [...]
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		<title>By: Henrik Biering Â» Getting rid of bad habits &#8230;</title>
		<link>http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2007/12/19/public-nuisance-1-importing-your-contacts/#comment-98003</link>
		<dc:creator>Henrik Biering Â» Getting rid of bad habits &#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2007 16:23:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] and comfortable in their interaction with other users.The alternative - continuing and developing todays community site practices - seems to me a scary vision for the future of identity [...]&lt;div class="comment-remix-meta"&gt;&lt;a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('98003','Henrik Biering &#194;&#187; Getting rid of bad habits &#38;#8230;'); return false;"&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('98003','Henrik Biering &#194;&#187; Getting rid of bad habits &#38;#8230;','&#38;#91;...&#38;#93; and comfortable in their interaction with other users.The alternative - continuing and developing todays community site practices - seems to me a scary vision for the future of identity &#38;#91;...&#38;#93;'); return false;"&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] and comfortable in their interaction with other users.The alternative - continuing and developing todays community site practices - seems to me a scary vision for the future of identity [...]
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		<title>By: Enthousiasmeren</title>
		<link>http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2007/12/19/public-nuisance-1-importing-your-contacts/#comment-97786</link>
		<dc:creator>Enthousiasmeren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Dec 2007 20:27:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Een bijzonder jaar met vele nieuwe (online) vrienden...&lt;/strong&gt;

Als dit je eerste keer is op dit blog, wil je misschien een abonnement op mijn RSS feed of mijn wekelijkse nieuwsbrief in je inbox. Dank voor je bezoek!



Het jaar is bijna voorbij. En het was een bijzonder jaar voor mij. Mijn eerste volledige jaa...&lt;div class="comment-remix-meta"&gt;&lt;a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('97786','Enthousiasmeren'); return false;"&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('97786','Enthousiasmeren','&#60;strong&#62;Een bijzonder jaar met vele nieuwe (online) vrienden...&#60;\/strong&#62;\n\nAls dit je eerste keer is op dit blog, wil je misschien een abonnement op mijn RSS feed of mijn wekelijkse nieuwsbrief in je inbox. Dank voor je bezoek!\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nHet jaar is bijna voorbij. En het was een bijzonder jaar voor mij. Mijn eerste volledige jaa...'); return false;"&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Een bijzonder jaar met vele nieuwe (online) vrienden&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Als dit je eerste keer is op dit blog, wil je misschien een abonnement op mijn RSS feed of mijn wekelijkse nieuwsbrief in je inbox. Dank voor je bezoek!</p>
<p>Het jaar is bijna voorbij. En het was een bijzonder jaar voor mij. Mijn eerste volledige jaa&#8230;
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('97786','Enthousiasmeren'); return false;">Reply</a>  - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('97786','Enthousiasmeren','&lt;strong&gt;Een bijzonder jaar met vele nieuwe (online) vrienden...&lt;\/strong&gt;\n\nAls dit je eerste keer is op dit blog, wil je misschien een abonnement op mijn RSS feed of mijn wekelijkse nieuwsbrief in je inbox. Dank voor je bezoek!\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nHet jaar is bijna voorbij. En het was een bijzonder jaar voor mij. Mijn eerste volledige jaa...'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: poso.dk - om portable sociale netvÃ¦rk &#187; Interessante links fundet d. 20. December</title>
		<link>http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2007/12/19/public-nuisance-1-importing-your-contacts/#comment-97610</link>
		<dc:creator>poso.dk - om portable sociale netvÃ¦rk &#187; Interessante links fundet d. 20. December</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 00:33:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Public nuisance #1: Importing your contacts &#124; FactoryCity - DISO gruppen pr&#248;ver at finde en alternativ metode til at importere kontakter - fordi det er noget rigtig skidt at udlevere brugernavn og kodeord til ens email adresse! [...]&lt;div class="comment-remix-meta"&gt;&lt;a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('97610','poso.dk - om portable sociale netv&#195;&#166;rk &#38;raquo; Interessante links fundet d. 20. December'); return false;"&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('97610','poso.dk - om portable sociale netv&#195;&#166;rk &#38;raquo; Interessante links fundet d. 20. December','&#38;#91;...&#38;#93; Public nuisance #1: Importing your contacts &#124; FactoryCity - DISO gruppen pr&#38;oslash;ver at finde en alternativ metode til at importere kontakter - fordi det er noget rigtig skidt at udlevere brugernavn og kodeord til ens email adresse! &#38;#91;...&#38;#93;'); return false;"&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Public nuisance #1: Importing your contacts | FactoryCity - DISO gruppen pr&oslash;ver at finde en alternativ metode til at importere kontakter - fordi det er noget rigtig skidt at udlevere brugernavn og kodeord til ens email adresse! [...]
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('97610','poso.dk - om portable sociale netv&Atilde;&brvbar;rk &amp;raquo; Interessante links fundet d. 20. December'); return false;">Reply</a>  - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('97610','poso.dk - om portable sociale netv&Atilde;&brvbar;rk &amp;raquo; Interessante links fundet d. 20. December','&amp;#91;...&amp;#93; Public nuisance #1: Importing your contacts | FactoryCity - DISO gruppen pr&amp;oslash;ver at finde en alternativ metode til at importere kontakter - fordi det er noget rigtig skidt at udlevere brugernavn og kodeord til ens email adresse! &amp;#91;...&amp;#93;'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Daniel Lackey</title>
		<link>http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2007/12/19/public-nuisance-1-importing-your-contacts/#comment-97600</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Lackey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 20:33:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Iâ€™d think that Dopplrâ€™s hCard approach is good but maybe so far only understandable to geeks."

And therein lies the problem. OAuth is a great idea, but how do you convince Joe Shmoe that it's worth him figuring out? Geeks will flock to OAuth inevitably after hearing about it, but they aren't really the folks who need this. They know better than to give out info like this; Granny Jones doesn't. 

"But I think we are going in this direction anyway with things like DiSo et. al. Itâ€™s mostly a question of adoption."
QFT&lt;div class="comment-remix-meta"&gt;&lt;a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('97600','Daniel Lackey'); return false;"&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('97600','Daniel Lackey','\&#34;I&#226;€™d think that Dopplr&#226;€™s hCard approach is good but maybe so far only understandable to geeks.\&#34;\r\n\r\nAnd therein lies the problem. OAuth is a great idea, but how do you convince Joe Shmoe that it\'s worth him figuring out? Geeks will flock to OAuth inevitably after hearing about it, but they aren\'t really the folks who need this. They know better than to give out info like this; Granny Jones doesn\'t. \r\n\r\n\&#34;But I think we are going in this direction anyway with things like DiSo et. al. It&#226;€™s mostly a question of adoption.\&#34;\r\nQFT'); return false;"&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Iâ€™d think that Dopplrâ€™s hCard approach is good but maybe so far only understandable to geeks.&#8221;</p>
<p>And therein lies the problem. OAuth is a great idea, but how do you convince Joe Shmoe that it&#8217;s worth him figuring out? Geeks will flock to OAuth inevitably after hearing about it, but they aren&#8217;t really the folks who need this. They know better than to give out info like this; Granny Jones doesn&#8217;t. </p>
<p>&#8220;But I think we are going in this direction anyway with things like DiSo et. al. Itâ€™s mostly a question of adoption.&#8221;<br />
QFT
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('97600','Daniel Lackey'); return false;">Reply</a>  - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('97600','Daniel Lackey','\&quot;I&acirc;€™d think that Dopplr&acirc;€™s hCard approach is good but maybe so far only understandable to geeks.\&quot;\r\n\r\nAnd therein lies the problem. OAuth is a great idea, but how do you convince Joe Shmoe that it\'s worth him figuring out? Geeks will flock to OAuth inevitably after hearing about it, but they aren\'t really the folks who need this. They know better than to give out info like this; Granny Jones doesn\'t. \r\n\r\n\&quot;But I think we are going in this direction anyway with things like DiSo et. al. It&acirc;€™s mostly a question of adoption.\&quot;\r\nQFT'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Christian Scholz</title>
		<link>http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2007/12/19/public-nuisance-1-importing-your-contacts/#comment-97594</link>
		<dc:creator>Christian Scholz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 13:30:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Indeed the security risks with these practices are obvious but it has been indeed the simplest solution for quite some time. I'd think that Dopplr's hCard approach is good but maybe so far only understandable to geeks. 

For the short term I see the best solution here to use OAuth, Google would need to step forward and enable getting your addressbook via OAuth. Having then libraries for PHP, Ruby, Python etc. for this would IMHO help quite a bit here.

OpenID is not really needed in this step I think but of course it would be great if this could be added in the same step and maybe make it automatable even more.

On the long run I'd like to see little reason to login anywhere to fetch all my contacts from x different places. I would want one place (which I choose) where my contacts are stored. When I login to some new service it should automatically discover these with me just deciding which should be transferred (maybe group based).

But I think we are going in this direction anyway with things like DiSo et. al. It's mostly a question of adoption.&lt;div class="comment-remix-meta"&gt;&lt;a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('97594','Christian Scholz'); return false;"&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('97594','Christian Scholz','Indeed the security risks with these practices are obvious but it has been indeed the simplest solution for quite some time. I\'d think that Dopplr\'s hCard approach is good but maybe so far only understandable to geeks. \r\n\r\nFor the short term I see the best solution here to use OAuth, Google would need to step forward and enable getting your addressbook via OAuth. Having then libraries for PHP, Ruby, Python etc. for this would IMHO help quite a bit here.\r\n\r\nOpenID is not really needed in this step I think but of course it would be great if this could be added in the same step and maybe make it automatable even more.\r\n\r\nOn the long run I\'d like to see little reason to login anywhere to fetch all my contacts from x different places. I would want one place (which I choose) where my contacts are stored. When I login to some new service it should automatically discover these with me just deciding which should be transferred (maybe group based).\r\n\r\nBut I think we are going in this direction anyway with things like DiSo et. al. It\'s mostly a question of adoption.'); return false;"&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indeed the security risks with these practices are obvious but it has been indeed the simplest solution for quite some time. I&#8217;d think that Dopplr&#8217;s hCard approach is good but maybe so far only understandable to geeks. </p>
<p>For the short term I see the best solution here to use OAuth, Google would need to step forward and enable getting your addressbook via OAuth. Having then libraries for PHP, Ruby, Python etc. for this would IMHO help quite a bit here.</p>
<p>OpenID is not really needed in this step I think but of course it would be great if this could be added in the same step and maybe make it automatable even more.</p>
<p>On the long run I&#8217;d like to see little reason to login anywhere to fetch all my contacts from x different places. I would want one place (which I choose) where my contacts are stored. When I login to some new service it should automatically discover these with me just deciding which should be transferred (maybe group based).</p>
<p>But I think we are going in this direction anyway with things like DiSo et. al. It&#8217;s mostly a question of adoption.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('97594','Christian Scholz'); return false;">Reply</a>  - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('97594','Christian Scholz','Indeed the security risks with these practices are obvious but it has been indeed the simplest solution for quite some time. I\'d think that Dopplr\'s hCard approach is good but maybe so far only understandable to geeks. \r\n\r\nFor the short term I see the best solution here to use OAuth, Google would need to step forward and enable getting your addressbook via OAuth. Having then libraries for PHP, Ruby, Python etc. for this would IMHO help quite a bit here.\r\n\r\nOpenID is not really needed in this step I think but of course it would be great if this could be added in the same step and maybe make it automatable even more.\r\n\r\nOn the long run I\'d like to see little reason to login anywhere to fetch all my contacts from x different places. I would want one place (which I choose) where my contacts are stored. When I login to some new service it should automatically discover these with me just deciding which should be transferred (maybe group based).\r\n\r\nBut I think we are going in this direction anyway with things like DiSo et. al. It\'s mostly a question of adoption.'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Oxa Koba</title>
		<link>http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2007/12/19/public-nuisance-1-importing-your-contacts/#comment-97592</link>
		<dc:creator>Oxa Koba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 04:21:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been surprised at the responses provided by customer support when this issue is raised. For example, here is what &lt;a href="http://forum.geni.com/topic.php?id=1568#post-8139" rel="nofollow"&gt;Geni&lt;/a&gt;, had to say:
&lt;blockquote cite="http://forum.geni.com/topic.php?id=1568#post-8139"&gt;Geni doesn't actually store the external passwords you enter after it retrieves the contacts, so if Geni was to ever be compromised, the thieves would not be able to get anything other than the e-mails addresses themselves, not the passwords or e-mail messages.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

They side-stepped the issue, ignoring the potential of the web services abusing the information itself. Not to mention the lil' phishy training that users internalize in the process.&lt;div class="comment-remix-meta"&gt;&lt;a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('97592','Oxa Koba'); return false;"&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('97592','Oxa Koba','I have been surprised at the responses provided by customer support when this issue is raised. For example, here is what &#60;a href=\&#34;http:\/\/forum.geni.com\/topic.php?id=1568#post-8139\&#34; rel=\&#34;nofollow\&#34;&#62;Geni&#60;\/a&#62;, had to say:\r\n&#60;blockquote cite=\&#34;http:\/\/forum.geni.com\/topic.php?id=1568#post-8139\&#34;&#62;Geni doesn\'t actually store the external passwords you enter after it retrieves the contacts, so if Geni was to ever be compromised, the thieves would not be able to get anything other than the e-mails addresses themselves, not the passwords or e-mail messages.&#60;\/blockquote&#62;\r\n\r\nThey side-stepped the issue, ignoring the potential of the web services abusing the information itself. Not to mention the lil\' phishy training that users internalize in the process.'); return false;"&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been surprised at the responses provided by customer support when this issue is raised. For example, here is what <a href="http://forum.geni.com/topic.php?id=1568#post-8139" rel="nofollow">Geni</a>, had to say:</p>
<blockquote cite="http://forum.geni.com/topic.php?id=1568#post-8139"><p>Geni doesn&#8217;t actually store the external passwords you enter after it retrieves the contacts, so if Geni was to ever be compromised, the thieves would not be able to get anything other than the e-mails addresses themselves, not the passwords or e-mail messages.</p></blockquote>
<p>They side-stepped the issue, ignoring the potential of the web services abusing the information itself. Not to mention the lil&#8217; phishy training that users internalize in the process.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('97592','Oxa Koba'); return false;">Reply</a>  - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('97592','Oxa Koba','I have been surprised at the responses provided by customer support when this issue is raised. For example, here is what &lt;a href=\&quot;http:\/\/forum.geni.com\/topic.php?id=1568#post-8139\&quot; rel=\&quot;nofollow\&quot;&gt;Geni&lt;\/a&gt;, had to say:\r\n&lt;blockquote cite=\&quot;http:\/\/forum.geni.com\/topic.php?id=1568#post-8139\&quot;&gt;Geni doesn\'t actually store the external passwords you enter after it retrieves the contacts, so if Geni was to ever be compromised, the thieves would not be able to get anything other than the e-mails addresses themselves, not the passwords or e-mail messages.&lt;\/blockquote&gt;\r\n\r\nThey side-stepped the issue, ignoring the potential of the web services abusing the information itself. Not to mention the lil\' phishy training that users internalize in the process.'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Dawn Foster</title>
		<link>http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2007/12/19/public-nuisance-1-importing-your-contacts/#comment-97591</link>
		<dc:creator>Dawn Foster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 03:44:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>right on!

First, I'm not giving my password to a random social networking site.

Second, I'll invite the contacts that I want to invite to a particular service.  Yes, it may save time to import, but I don't need a bot to send friend invites for me.

I'd consider it with your idea of basing it on OpenID, etc. where I might have a little more control over the process along with better security.&lt;div class="comment-remix-meta"&gt;&lt;a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('97591','Dawn Foster'); return false;"&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('97591','Dawn Foster','right on!\r\n\r\nFirst, I\'m not giving my password to a random social networking site.\r\n\r\nSecond, I\'ll invite the contacts that I want to invite to a particular service.  Yes, it may save time to import, but I don\'t need a bot to send friend invites for me.\r\n\r\nI\'d consider it with your idea of basing it on OpenID, etc. where I might have a little more control over the process along with better security.'); return false;"&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>right on!</p>
<p>First, I&#8217;m not giving my password to a random social networking site.</p>
<p>Second, I&#8217;ll invite the contacts that I want to invite to a particular service.  Yes, it may save time to import, but I don&#8217;t need a bot to send friend invites for me.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d consider it with your idea of basing it on OpenID, etc. where I might have a little more control over the process along with better security.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('97591','Dawn Foster'); return false;">Reply</a>  - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('97591','Dawn Foster','right on!\r\n\r\nFirst, I\'m not giving my password to a random social networking site.\r\n\r\nSecond, I\'ll invite the contacts that I want to invite to a particular service.  Yes, it may save time to import, but I don\'t need a bot to send friend invites for me.\r\n\r\nI\'d consider it with your idea of basing it on OpenID, etc. where I might have a little more control over the process along with better security.'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2007/12/19/public-nuisance-1-importing-your-contacts/#comment-97590</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 01:07:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tara's point brings up something worth mentioning: this practice is popular because it works pretty darn well for users. People understand the goal ("avoid retyping all those damn addresses"), and the interaction model is very clear. "Upload Your address book" may be the technical anti-pattern, but it's a very effective design pattern. 

Anything that wants to compete with the current way needs to keep it *as simple* as the current way from the user's point of view.&lt;div class="comment-remix-meta"&gt;&lt;a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('97590','Andrew'); return false;"&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('97590','Andrew','Tara\'s point brings up something worth mentioning: this practice is popular because it works pretty darn well for users. People understand the goal (\&#34;avoid retyping all those damn addresses\&#34;), and the interaction model is very clear. \&#34;Upload Your address book\&#34; may be the technical anti-pattern, but it\'s a very effective design pattern. \r\n\r\nAnything that wants to compete with the current way needs to keep it *as simple* as the current way from the user\'s point of view.'); return false;"&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tara&#8217;s point brings up something worth mentioning: this practice is popular because it works pretty darn well for users. People understand the goal (&#8221;avoid retyping all those damn addresses&#8221;), and the interaction model is very clear. &#8220;Upload Your address book&#8221; may be the technical anti-pattern, but it&#8217;s a very effective design pattern. </p>
<p>Anything that wants to compete with the current way needs to keep it *as simple* as the current way from the user&#8217;s point of view.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('97590','Andrew'); return false;">Reply</a>  - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('97590','Andrew','Tara\'s point brings up something worth mentioning: this practice is popular because it works pretty darn well for users. People understand the goal (\&quot;avoid retyping all those damn addresses\&quot;), and the interaction model is very clear. \&quot;Upload Your address book\&quot; may be the technical anti-pattern, but it\'s a very effective design pattern. \r\n\r\nAnything that wants to compete with the current way needs to keep it *as simple* as the current way from the user\'s point of view.'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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