Comments on: Public nuisance #1: Importing your contacts http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2007/12/19/public-nuisance-1-importing-your-contacts/ This can all be made better. Ready? Begin. Mon, 16 Apr 2012 18:32:33 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Reena http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2007/12/19/public-nuisance-1-importing-your-contacts/comment-page-1/#comment-106344 Reena Thu, 11 Jun 2009 19:01:36 +0000 http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2007/12/19/public-nuisance-1-importing-your-contacts/#comment-106344 Does anybody know if somebody has already created a widget that allows users to import their contacts in a good way... E.g. Some widget that redirects the user to logon directly to GMAIL asks them which contacts they want to import, imports just those contacts, and brings them back to the website. I'm not a programmer... I'm just trying to think of a way that people can get their contacts from other email accounts in a way that's not Phishing site like and super-easy-user-friendly. Does anybody know if somebody has already created a widget that allows users to import their contacts in a good way…
E.g. Some widget that redirects the user to logon directly to GMAIL asks them which contacts they want to import, imports just those contacts, and brings them back to the website.

I’m not a programmer… I’m just trying to think of a way that people can get their contacts from other email accounts in a way that’s not Phishing site like and super-easy-user-friendly.

]]> By: Twitter and the Password Anti-Pattern | FactoryCity http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2007/12/19/public-nuisance-1-importing-your-contacts/comment-page-1/#comment-103390 Twitter and the Password Anti-Pattern | FactoryCity Sat, 03 Jan 2009 02:30:16 +0000 http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2007/12/19/public-nuisance-1-importing-your-contacts/#comment-103390 [...] written about the password anti-pattern before, and have, with regards to Twitter, advocated for the adoption of some form of delegated [...] [...] written about the password anti-pattern before, and have, with regards to Twitter, advocated for the adoption of some form of delegated [...]

]]> By: Responding to criticisms about OpenID: convenience, security and personal agency | FactoryCity http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2007/12/19/public-nuisance-1-importing-your-contacts/comment-page-1/#comment-103296 Responding to criticisms about OpenID: convenience, security and personal agency | FactoryCity Sat, 27 Dec 2008 21:51:15 +0000 http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2007/12/19/public-nuisance-1-importing-your-contacts/#comment-103296 [...] At best, combined with OAuth, third-parties never need your account password, defeating the password anti-pattern and providing a more secure way to share your data. [...] [...] At best, combined with OAuth, third-parties never need your account password, defeating the password anti-pattern and providing a more secure way to share your data. [...]

]]> By: Boxbe Blog » Blog Archive » Boxbe heading to Yahoo! Hack Day http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2007/12/19/public-nuisance-1-importing-your-contacts/comment-page-1/#comment-100722 Boxbe Blog » Blog Archive » Boxbe heading to Yahoo! Hack Day Thu, 11 Sep 2008 21:43:34 +0000 http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2007/12/19/public-nuisance-1-importing-your-contacts/#comment-100722 [...] be adding their Address Book API very soon so that we’re not using that not-so-nice anti-pattern we keep hearing about. We’re hoping to learn more about it and other APIs that Yahoo! is [...] [...] be adding their Address Book API very soon so that we’re not using that not-so-nice anti-pattern we keep hearing about. We’re hoping to learn more about it and other APIs that Yahoo! is [...]

]]> By: This Antipattern is Kryptonite to the Open Social Web at Like It Matters http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2007/12/19/public-nuisance-1-importing-your-contacts/comment-page-1/#comment-98139 This Antipattern is Kryptonite to the Open Social Web at Like It Matters Fri, 04 Jan 2008 14:57:43 +0000 http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2007/12/19/public-nuisance-1-importing-your-contacts/#comment-98139 [...] keep wagging our collective fingers about this antipattern of asking users to input their credentials for another service but evidently no [...] [...] keep wagging our collective fingers about this antipattern of asking users to input their credentials for another service but evidently no [...]

]]> By: Henrik Biering » Getting rid of bad habits … http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2007/12/19/public-nuisance-1-importing-your-contacts/comment-page-1/#comment-98003 Henrik Biering » Getting rid of bad habits … Sat, 29 Dec 2007 16:23:07 +0000 http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2007/12/19/public-nuisance-1-importing-your-contacts/#comment-98003 [...] and comfortable in their interaction with other users.The alternative - continuing and developing todays community site practices - seems to me a scary vision for the future of identity [...] [...] and comfortable in their interaction with other users.The alternative – continuing and developing todays community site practices – seems to me a scary vision for the future of identity [...]

]]> By: Enthousiasmeren http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2007/12/19/public-nuisance-1-importing-your-contacts/comment-page-1/#comment-97786 Enthousiasmeren Mon, 24 Dec 2007 20:27:37 +0000 http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2007/12/19/public-nuisance-1-importing-your-contacts/#comment-97786 <strong>Een bijzonder jaar met vele nieuwe (online) vrienden...</strong> Als dit je eerste keer is op dit blog, wil je misschien een abonnement op mijn RSS feed of mijn wekelijkse nieuwsbrief in je inbox. Dank voor je bezoek! Het jaar is bijna voorbij. En het was een bijzonder jaar voor mij. Mijn eerste volledige jaa... Een bijzonder jaar met vele nieuwe (online) vrienden…

Als dit je eerste keer is op dit blog, wil je misschien een abonnement op mijn RSS feed of mijn wekelijkse nieuwsbrief in je inbox. Dank voor je bezoek!

Het jaar is bijna voorbij. En het was een bijzonder jaar voor mij. Mijn eerste volledige jaa…

]]> By: poso.dk - om portable sociale netværk » Interessante links fundet d. 20. December http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2007/12/19/public-nuisance-1-importing-your-contacts/comment-page-1/#comment-97610 poso.dk - om portable sociale netværk » Interessante links fundet d. 20. December Fri, 21 Dec 2007 00:33:48 +0000 http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2007/12/19/public-nuisance-1-importing-your-contacts/#comment-97610 [...] Public nuisance #1: Importing your contacts | FactoryCity - DISO gruppen prøver at finde en alternativ metode til at importere kontakter - fordi det er noget rigtig skidt at udlevere brugernavn og kodeord til ens email adresse! [...] [...] Public nuisance #1: Importing your contacts | FactoryCity – DISO gruppen prøver at finde en alternativ metode til at importere kontakter – fordi det er noget rigtig skidt at udlevere brugernavn og kodeord til ens email adresse! [...]

]]> By: Daniel Lackey http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2007/12/19/public-nuisance-1-importing-your-contacts/comment-page-1/#comment-97600 Daniel Lackey Thu, 20 Dec 2007 20:33:28 +0000 http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2007/12/19/public-nuisance-1-importing-your-contacts/#comment-97600 "I’d think that Dopplr’s hCard approach is good but maybe so far only understandable to geeks." And therein lies the problem. OAuth is a great idea, but how do you convince Joe Shmoe that it's worth him figuring out? Geeks will flock to OAuth inevitably after hearing about it, but they aren't really the folks who need this. They know better than to give out info like this; Granny Jones doesn't. "But I think we are going in this direction anyway with things like DiSo et. al. It’s mostly a question of adoption." QFT “I’d think that Dopplr’s hCard approach is good but maybe so far only understandable to geeks.”

And therein lies the problem. OAuth is a great idea, but how do you convince Joe Shmoe that it’s worth him figuring out? Geeks will flock to OAuth inevitably after hearing about it, but they aren’t really the folks who need this. They know better than to give out info like this; Granny Jones doesn’t.

“But I think we are going in this direction anyway with things like DiSo et. al. It’s mostly a question of adoption.”
QFT

]]> By: Christian Scholz http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2007/12/19/public-nuisance-1-importing-your-contacts/comment-page-1/#comment-97594 Christian Scholz Thu, 20 Dec 2007 13:30:32 +0000 http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2007/12/19/public-nuisance-1-importing-your-contacts/#comment-97594 Indeed the security risks with these practices are obvious but it has been indeed the simplest solution for quite some time. I'd think that Dopplr's hCard approach is good but maybe so far only understandable to geeks. For the short term I see the best solution here to use OAuth, Google would need to step forward and enable getting your addressbook via OAuth. Having then libraries for PHP, Ruby, Python etc. for this would IMHO help quite a bit here. OpenID is not really needed in this step I think but of course it would be great if this could be added in the same step and maybe make it automatable even more. On the long run I'd like to see little reason to login anywhere to fetch all my contacts from x different places. I would want one place (which I choose) where my contacts are stored. When I login to some new service it should automatically discover these with me just deciding which should be transferred (maybe group based). But I think we are going in this direction anyway with things like DiSo et. al. It's mostly a question of adoption. Indeed the security risks with these practices are obvious but it has been indeed the simplest solution for quite some time. I’d think that Dopplr’s hCard approach is good but maybe so far only understandable to geeks.

For the short term I see the best solution here to use OAuth, Google would need to step forward and enable getting your addressbook via OAuth. Having then libraries for PHP, Ruby, Python etc. for this would IMHO help quite a bit here.

OpenID is not really needed in this step I think but of course it would be great if this could be added in the same step and maybe make it automatable even more.

On the long run I’d like to see little reason to login anywhere to fetch all my contacts from x different places. I would want one place (which I choose) where my contacts are stored. When I login to some new service it should automatically discover these with me just deciding which should be transferred (maybe group based).

But I think we are going in this direction anyway with things like DiSo et. al. It’s mostly a question of adoption.

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