Comments on: Fluid, Prism, Mozpad and site-specific browsers http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2007/12/28/fluid-prism-mozpad-and-site-specific-browsers/ This can all be made better. Ready? Begin. Thu, 04 Dec 2008 20:17:28 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7-RC1-10015 hourly 1 By: Mark Finkle’s Weblog » Zimbra on Prism & Other New Stuff http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2007/12/28/fluid-prism-mozpad-and-site-specific-browsers/comment-page-1/#comment-98632 Mark Finkle’s Weblog » Zimbra on Prism & Other New Stuff Thu, 14 Feb 2008 07:10:15 +0000 http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2007/12/28/fluid-prism-mozpad-and-site-specific-browsers/#comment-98632 [...] can haz WHATWG spec plz? A site specific browser meetup sounds like a good [...] [...] can haz WHATWG spec plz? A site specific browser meetup sounds like a good [...]

]]> By: Eran Sandler http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2007/12/28/fluid-prism-mozpad-and-site-specific-browsers/comment-page-1/#comment-98429 Eran Sandler Wed, 23 Jan 2008 07:02:14 +0000 http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2007/12/28/fluid-prism-mozpad-and-site-specific-browsers/#comment-98429 There is an additional SSB called Bubbles (I think it was one of the first but it never got the coverage the others did). http://www.3d3r.com/bubbles/ It has the ability to interact with your desktop as well, so you can get a nice notification on your desktop when you have new mail on Gmail or a reminder in GCalendar. It's all based on a JavaScript API that you can add to your site enhancing it for SSBs. There is an additional SSB called Bubbles (I think it was one of the first but it never got the coverage the others did).

http://www.3d3r.com/bubbles/

It has the ability to interact with your desktop as well, so you can get a nice notification on your desktop when you have new mail on Gmail or a reminder in GCalendar. It’s all based on a JavaScript API that you can add to your site enhancing it for SSBs.

]]> By: Morethanseven » Things to entertain us in 2008 http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2007/12/28/fluid-prism-mozpad-and-site-specific-browsers/comment-page-1/#comment-98105 Morethanseven » Things to entertain us in 2008 Fri, 04 Jan 2008 00:20:53 +0000 http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2007/12/28/fluid-prism-mozpad-and-site-specific-browsers/#comment-98105 [...] few people have already waxed lyrical about Site Specific Browsers and after trying out Prism for a few weeks [...] [...] few people have already waxed lyrical about Site Specific Browsers and after trying out Prism for a few weeks [...]

]]> By: Jesse Andrews http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2007/12/28/fluid-prism-mozpad-and-site-specific-browsers/comment-page-1/#comment-98019 Jesse Andrews Sun, 30 Dec 2007 21:55:49 +0000 http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2007/12/28/fluid-prism-mozpad-and-site-specific-browsers/#comment-98019 Interesting. I still like hacking in XUL, but that is mostly because there are somethings that are almost impossible to do in HTML (nice DND support from the desktop). Another interesting point about site-specific browsers is that by using them for your most important accounts, it protects you against certain types of attacks. If you never log into gmail in your normal browser, then you cannot be exposed if google has a temporary CSRF vulnerability - I talked about it a bit <a href="http://overstimulate.com/articles/2007/12/25/on-the-importance-of-csrf-protection" rel="nofollow">on my blog</a> a few days ago. Interesting. I still like hacking in XUL, but that is mostly because there are somethings that are almost impossible to do in HTML (nice DND support from the desktop).

Another interesting point about site-specific browsers is that by using them for your most important accounts, it protects you against certain types of attacks.

If you never log into gmail in your normal browser, then you cannot be exposed if google has a temporary CSRF vulnerability - I talked about it a bit on my blog a few days ago.

]]> By: Stephane Daury http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2007/12/28/fluid-prism-mozpad-and-site-specific-browsers/comment-page-1/#comment-98007 Stephane Daury Sat, 29 Dec 2007 20:40:58 +0000 http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2007/12/28/fluid-prism-mozpad-and-site-specific-browsers/#comment-98007 I wonder how much the Eclipse project is to "blame" for the lack of adoption of XUL and the Mozilla codebase as a development framework? EG: Komodo IDE vs. Eclipse IDE. I wonder how much the Eclipse project is to “blame” for the lack of adoption of XUL and the Mozilla codebase as a development framework? EG: Komodo IDE vs. Eclipse IDE.

]]> By: tekArtist » End of Support for Netscape Web Browsers http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2007/12/28/fluid-prism-mozpad-and-site-specific-browsers/comment-page-1/#comment-98006 tekArtist » End of Support for Netscape Web Browsers Sat, 29 Dec 2007 20:26:03 +0000 http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2007/12/28/fluid-prism-mozpad-and-site-specific-browsers/#comment-98006 [...] I’m on the browser subject, everybody’s favourite Factory Joe (aka Chris Messina) has a great post touching on the rising trend site specific browsers and the state of the Mozpad project (and by [...] [...] I’m on the browser subject, everybody’s favourite Factory Joe (aka Chris Messina) has a great post touching on the rising trend site specific browsers and the state of the Mozpad project (and by [...]

]]> By: enefekt http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2007/12/28/fluid-prism-mozpad-and-site-specific-browsers/comment-page-1/#comment-98002 enefekt Sat, 29 Dec 2007 14:41:23 +0000 http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2007/12/28/fluid-prism-mozpad-and-site-specific-browsers/#comment-98002 "they simply side-step the standards issues and let web developers and designers focus on functionality and design directly, without necessarily worrying about the idiosyncrasies (or non-compliance) of different browsers" Hold up.. [tires screeching] One the last few remaining reasons to hold onto choosing HTML and the browser DOM to develop client side apps was the whole pseudo-cross-browser-capability (which was never really there in the first place). By coding for a particular browser platform you throw that away. In my mind this cements choosing a real cross-platform solution (albeit proprietary) such as one based on the Flash Player and/or Adobe AIR. Really, why hate on AIR so much, the Flash Player has rocked for so long and is going even stronger today. That really shows how much potential (and kinetic) energy that Adobe AIR has. I won't even touch the whole XUL thing. I'm exhausted by it by now. BTW, your SSB meet-up sounds interesting. “they simply side-step the standards issues and let web developers and designers focus on functionality and design directly, without necessarily worrying about the idiosyncrasies (or non-compliance) of different browsers”

Hold up.. [tires screeching]

One the last few remaining reasons to hold onto choosing HTML and the browser DOM to develop client side apps was the whole pseudo-cross-browser-capability (which was never really there in the first place). By coding for a particular browser platform you throw that away.

In my mind this cements choosing a real cross-platform solution (albeit proprietary) such as one based on the Flash Player and/or Adobe AIR.

Really, why hate on AIR so much, the Flash Player has rocked for so long and is going even stronger today. That really shows how much potential (and kinetic) energy that Adobe AIR has.

I won’t even touch the whole XUL thing. I’m exhausted by it by now.

BTW, your SSB meet-up sounds interesting.

]]> By: Scott Allan Wallick http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2007/12/28/fluid-prism-mozpad-and-site-specific-browsers/comment-page-1/#comment-97996 Scott Allan Wallick Sat, 29 Dec 2007 07:02:15 +0000 http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2007/12/28/fluid-prism-mozpad-and-site-specific-browsers/#comment-97996 Personally, I use Gmail and Google Reader solely with Prism. I think it's a great tool and very useful to me. Though I'm not sure there's anything else Prism can offer. It already does 100% of what I want out of it. Personally, I use Gmail and Google Reader solely with Prism. I think it’s a great tool and very useful to me. Though I’m not sure there’s anything else Prism can offer. It already does 100% of what I want out of it.

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