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	<title>Comments on: It&#8217;s high time we moved to URL-based identifiers</title>
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		<title>By: cortney</title>
		<link>http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2008/01/03/its-high-time-we-moved-to-url-based-identifiers/comment-page-1/#comment-115798</link>
		<dc:creator>cortney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 20:36:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This makes a lot of sense.  There has to be many people that go through the process manually which i agree has to stop.  I&#039;ll keep thinkin about this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This makes a lot of sense.  There has to be many people that go through the process manually which i agree has to stop.  I&#8217;ll keep thinkin about this.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Messina</title>
		<link>http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2008/01/03/its-high-time-we-moved-to-url-based-identifiers/comment-page-1/#comment-99943</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Messina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 07:06:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can basically use whatever kind of identifier you want to enable someone to access an account attached that verified identifier... whether you display it or not is up to relationship between the site and their member.

So you could use credit card numbers, social security number, phone numbers, email addresses, URLs... doesn&#039;t really matter... as long as someone (ideally ONE person) can prove that it&#039;s them coming back to the site.

What you call them or how you publicly refer to them on the site (alias, username, full name, etc) is beyond the scope of OpenID.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can basically use whatever kind of identifier you want to enable someone to access an account attached that verified identifier&#8230; whether you display it or not is up to relationship between the site and their member.</p>
<p>So you could use credit card numbers, social security number, phone numbers, email addresses, URLs&#8230; doesn&#8217;t really matter&#8230; as long as someone (ideally ONE person) can prove that it&#8217;s them coming back to the site.</p>
<p>What you call them or how you publicly refer to them on the site (alias, username, full name, etc) is beyond the scope of OpenID.</p>
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		<title>By: http://jamestindall.info/yadis.xrdf</title>
		<link>http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2008/01/03/its-high-time-we-moved-to-url-based-identifiers/comment-page-1/#comment-99942</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 16:17:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Would the consumer site resolving the email into an openid uri sidestep your privacy concerns? The user would not have to promote their email address as their id but they could use it as such.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would the consumer site resolving the email into an openid uri sidestep your privacy concerns? The user would not have to promote their email address as their id but they could use it as such.</p>
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		<title>By: Nodalities &#187; Blog Archive &#187; This Week&#8217;s Semantic Web</title>
		<link>http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2008/01/03/its-high-time-we-moved-to-url-based-identifiers/comment-page-1/#comment-98894</link>
		<dc:creator>Nodalities &#187; Blog Archive &#187; This Week&#8217;s Semantic Web</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 17:09:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] It’s high time we moved to URL-based identifiers [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Quote by FactoryCity » It’s high time we moved to URL-based identifiers &#124; Oliver's Stuff</title>
		<link>http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2008/01/03/its-high-time-we-moved-to-url-based-identifiers/comment-page-1/#comment-98883</link>
		<dc:creator>Quote by FactoryCity » It’s high time we moved to URL-based identifiers &#124; Oliver's Stuff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 18:43:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] FactoryCity &#187; It&#8217;s high time we moved to URL-based identifiers [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Ma.gnolia Links from Jan 27 to Feb 03 &#171; ?-gration</title>
		<link>http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2008/01/03/its-high-time-we-moved-to-url-based-identifiers/comment-page-1/#comment-98485</link>
		<dc:creator>Ma.gnolia Links from Jan 27 to Feb 03 &#171; ?-gration</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 18:20:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] It’s high time we moved to URL-based identifiers &#124; FactoryCity [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Scott Kveton &#183; What can/should you do with an OpenID end-point?</title>
		<link>http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2008/01/03/its-high-time-we-moved-to-url-based-identifiers/comment-page-1/#comment-98318</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Kveton &#183; What can/should you do with an OpenID end-point?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2008 03:00:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a bunch of folks have been talking about this idea of moving to URL&#8217;s as identifiers in recent weeks (even me). The idea is [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Christian Scholz</title>
		<link>http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2008/01/03/its-high-time-we-moved-to-url-based-identifiers/comment-page-1/#comment-98314</link>
		<dc:creator>Christian Scholz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 13:01:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was thinking a bit more about the issue of URL based identificators but I am really not sure that this is ready for mainstream. Everybody on the net probably has an email address and if you signup on any recent new web service you probably have to give your email address sort of as identification (to which some confirmation link is sent).

To change this is IMHO quite a lot of work. Maybe not so much for us geeks but for mainstream internet. My parents do not have URLs or wouldn&#039;t actually know which one their identification URL is and explaining that to them will be hard. So I really think that trying to somehow e.g. map emails to URIs or that email DNS proposal over at hueniverse might be things to consider. 

Of course there is the spam problem and you probably need to have your identifier somewhat public so it makes sense (as I had problems the other day when playing around with some xfn parser/fetcher of mine to actually map my friends profiles together as it wasn&#039;t clear which profile belonged to which identity) and I honestly don&#039;t have a solution for this. But still I see problems of mass adoptions if we don&#039;t go where the people are.

Maybe those identifiers should simply look like email addresses but never be able to receive mail but this defeats my point probably ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was thinking a bit more about the issue of URL based identificators but I am really not sure that this is ready for mainstream. Everybody on the net probably has an email address and if you signup on any recent new web service you probably have to give your email address sort of as identification (to which some confirmation link is sent).</p>
<p>To change this is IMHO quite a lot of work. Maybe not so much for us geeks but for mainstream internet. My parents do not have URLs or wouldn&#8217;t actually know which one their identification URL is and explaining that to them will be hard. So I really think that trying to somehow e.g. map emails to URIs or that email DNS proposal over at hueniverse might be things to consider. </p>
<p>Of course there is the spam problem and you probably need to have your identifier somewhat public so it makes sense (as I had problems the other day when playing around with some xfn parser/fetcher of mine to actually map my friends profiles together as it wasn&#8217;t clear which profile belonged to which identity) and I honestly don&#8217;t have a solution for this. But still I see problems of mass adoptions if we don&#8217;t go where the people are.</p>
<p>Maybe those identifiers should simply look like email addresses but never be able to receive mail but this defeats my point probably <img src='http://factoryjoe.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: ambient &#187; Some links from today</title>
		<link>http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2008/01/03/its-high-time-we-moved-to-url-based-identifiers/comment-page-1/#comment-98303</link>
		<dc:creator>ambient &#187; Some links from today</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 21:28:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] It&#8217;s high time we moved to URL based identifiers [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Chris Messina</title>
		<link>http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2008/01/03/its-high-time-we-moved-to-url-based-identifiers/comment-page-1/#comment-98282</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Messina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 00:48:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Pascal Van Hecke: Dunno... Timing? Marketing? Interface? Lack of developer interest? My guess is that it was just too soon for its own good, as many breakthru technologies often are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Pascal Van Hecke: Dunno&#8230; Timing? Marketing? Interface? Lack of developer interest? My guess is that it was just too soon for its own good, as many breakthru technologies often are.</p>
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