Comments on: The problem with open source design http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2008/01/03/the-problem-with-open-source-design/ This can all be made better. Ready? Begin. Fri, 29 Aug 2008 02:04:17 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: Open Beats Closed, Except When It Doesn’t at Like It Matters http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2008/01/03/the-problem-with-open-source-design/#comment-98461 Open Beats Closed, Except When It Doesn’t at Like It Matters Fri, 25 Jan 2008 15:43:11 +0000 http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2008/01/03/the-problem-with-open-source-design/#comment-98461 [...] practiced by a small band led by a benevolent dictator.  You can see Chris complaining about the ineffectiveness of open-source design.  Adam Greenfield throwing Sugar under the bus as another flawed exampled of FLOSS experience.  [...] [...] practiced by a small band led by a benevolent dictator.  You can see Chris complaining about the ineffectiveness of open-source design.  Adam Greenfield throwing Sugar under the bus as another flawed exampled of FLOSS experience.  [...]

]]> By: tecosystems » links for 2008-01-11 http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2008/01/03/the-problem-with-open-source-design/#comment-98306 tecosystems » links for 2008-01-11 Fri, 11 Jan 2008 05:30:24 +0000 http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2008/01/03/the-problem-with-open-source-design/#comment-98306 [...] The problem with open source design | FactoryCity i’ve seen this, or variations of it, made for some time. and while i don’t fully buy the argument, there’s truth to it and the evidence does support the case. (tags: collaboration design development opensource ui feedback) [...] [...] The problem with open source design | FactoryCity i’ve seen this, or variations of it, made for some time. and while i don’t fully buy the argument, there’s truth to it and the evidence does support the case. (tags: collaboration design development opensource ui feedback) [...]

]]> By: Wordpress Design Complaints? « The Pursuit of a Life http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2008/01/03/the-problem-with-open-source-design/#comment-98147 Wordpress Design Complaints? « The Pursuit of a Life Fri, 04 Jan 2008 19:29:46 +0000 http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2008/01/03/the-problem-with-open-source-design/#comment-98147 [...] Published January 4, 2008 Web Tags: Chris Messina, Design, WordPress Chris Messina gets offended by the upcoming comp for the WordPress 2.4 Admin Panel. He turns it into a complaint about [...] [...] Published January 4, 2008 Web Tags: Chris Messina, Design, WordPress Chris Messina gets offended by the upcoming comp for the WordPress 2.4 Admin Panel. He turns it into a complaint about [...]

]]> By: Jason Santa Maria http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2008/01/03/the-problem-with-open-source-design/#comment-98145 Jason Santa Maria Fri, 04 Jan 2008 18:39:22 +0000 http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2008/01/03/the-problem-with-open-source-design/#comment-98145 @Brian We do indeed have experience in app UI, it's just not what we do most of these days. Nice post, Chris. Like everyone has been saying, we're only seeing a fraction of what this will look like, and more importantly, function like. There's little point in commenting too much about it yet, because we'd be commenting on an unfinished application. I can however say that we did a lot of work on the planning and research end of things in tandem with interviewing many WP users. Some things are definitely going to change, and like any change, it's going to take some time for people to accept it. @Brian We do indeed have experience in app UI, it’s just not what we do most of these days.

Nice post, Chris. Like everyone has been saying, we’re only seeing a fraction of what this will look like, and more importantly, function like. There’s little point in commenting too much about it yet, because we’d be commenting on an unfinished application. I can however say that we did a lot of work on the planning and research end of things in tandem with interviewing many WP users. Some things are definitely going to change, and like any change, it’s going to take some time for people to accept it.

]]> By: Chris Bernard http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2008/01/03/the-problem-with-open-source-design/#comment-98115 Chris Bernard Fri, 04 Jan 2008 01:00:46 +0000 http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2008/01/03/the-problem-with-open-source-design/#comment-98115 A wonderful and thoughtful post. BTW, I'd hanker that Happy Cog does indeed know alot about functional design. It's hard designing any interface that is used by thousands or even millions of users and a singular vision that can drive and motivate design is important (and it doesn't need to be absolute). When I look at what it perhaps the pinnacle of design practice that community-based development can draw inspriation from I always come back to film-making. The director 'owns' the vision but the final output is always a collaborative effort. Chris Bernard, User Experience Evangelist, Microsoft A wonderful and thoughtful post. BTW, I’d hanker that Happy Cog does indeed know alot about functional design. It’s hard designing any interface that is used by thousands or even millions of users and a singular vision that can drive and motivate design is important (and it doesn’t need to be absolute). When I look at what it perhaps the pinnacle of design practice that community-based development can draw inspriation from I always come back to film-making. The director ‘owns’ the vision but the final output is always a collaborative effort.

Chris Bernard,
User Experience Evangelist, Microsoft

]]> By: Paul Downey :: A Vision of The Web in 2008 http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2008/01/03/the-problem-with-open-source-design/#comment-98104 Paul Downey :: A Vision of The Web in 2008 Thu, 03 Jan 2008 23:14:17 +0000 http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2008/01/03/the-problem-with-open-source-design/#comment-98104 [...] and support, is by releasing Open Source. One area this still remains a challenge is in the field of design. Agile development and Open Source haven’t always led to good user interfaces or experiences, [...] [...] and support, is by releasing Open Source. One area this still remains a challenge is in the field of design. Agile development and Open Source haven’t always led to good user interfaces or experiences, [...]

]]> By: Kevin T Driver http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2008/01/03/the-problem-with-open-source-design/#comment-98103 Kevin T Driver Thu, 03 Jan 2008 21:19:25 +0000 http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2008/01/03/the-problem-with-open-source-design/#comment-98103 excellent post. excellent post.

]]> By: SpoonOS » Blog Archive » Open Source Design Management http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2008/01/03/the-problem-with-open-source-design/#comment-98101 SpoonOS » Blog Archive » Open Source Design Management Thu, 03 Jan 2008 20:50:36 +0000 http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2008/01/03/the-problem-with-open-source-design/#comment-98101 [...] a little too intently but I think there’s a lot of value in individual skill and focus. This post by Chris Messina makes some very valid points. I want the project to be open enough to allow customization on your [...] [...] a little too intently but I think there’s a lot of value in individual skill and focus. This post by Chris Messina makes some very valid points. I want the project to be open enough to allow customization on your [...]

]]> By: Stephane Daury http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2008/01/03/the-problem-with-open-source-design/#comment-98100 Stephane Daury Thu, 03 Jan 2008 20:44:40 +0000 http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2008/01/03/the-problem-with-open-source-design/#comment-98100 Just a quick follow up on the WP stuff: Matt chimed in with what I think is the right decision today: http://comox.textdrive.com/pipermail/wp-hackers/2008-January/016993.html Just a quick follow up on the WP stuff: Matt chimed in with what I think is the right decision today:

http://comox.textdrive.com/pipermail/wp-hackers/2008-January/016993.html

]]> By: Brian Burlock http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2008/01/03/the-problem-with-open-source-design/#comment-98098 Brian Burlock Thu, 03 Jan 2008 19:18:34 +0000 http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2008/01/03/the-problem-with-open-source-design/#comment-98098 Happy Cog seems to be in charge of this undertaking and I don't know if any of them have worked on applicaiton UI ever. They are a great micro site company where there are only a couple of pages. I don't think any of them understand application flow, but they might not be doing that. This is only 10%, I will hold judgment until it is 80%. Happy Cog seems to be in charge of this undertaking and I don’t know if any of them have worked on applicaiton UI ever. They are a great micro site company where there are only a couple of pages. I don’t think any of them understand application flow, but they might not be doing that. This is only 10%, I will hold judgment until it is 80%.

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