Comments on: Musings on Chrome, the rebirth of the location bar and privacy in the cloud http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2008/09/02/musings-on-chrome-the-rebirth-of-the-location-bar-and-privacy-in-the-cloud/ This can all be made better. Ready? Begin. Thu, 18 Mar 2010 22:13:55 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Other Matt http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2008/09/02/musings-on-chrome-the-rebirth-of-the-location-bar-and-privacy-in-the-cloud/comment-page-1/#comment-114442 Other Matt Wed, 09 Dec 2009 04:43:26 +0000 http://factoryjoe.com/blog/?p=1003#comment-114442 While I think the combo URL/search box constitutes novel UI...I think it stinks as an implementation of the opensearch.org specification when compared to Firefox or IE (let's not even talk about lame Safari that eschews it altogether). Here's why: 1) There is no way to switch search engines on-the-fly once you've typed a query 2) Editing your search engines (right-click on the URL/search box field, "Edit Search Engines"?) is hard to find 3) If you have figured out #2 for how to add a non-Google search engine, the trick of invoking your non-default by typing "Bing query term" just won't work for my mom. Or brother even. It's command-liney. Cool for geeks, but that's it. 4) (related) there's no visual way of seeing which search engines you can choose from when typing a query It's hard not to draw this up into a conspiracy theory: Google makes itself the default search engine, but makes it really hard to switch to another search provider, all the while "supporting" OpenSearch. While I think the combo URL/search box constitutes novel UI…I think it stinks as an implementation of the opensearch.org specification when compared to Firefox or IE (let’s not even talk about lame Safari that eschews it altogether).

Here’s why:
1) There is no way to switch search engines on-the-fly once you’ve typed a query
2) Editing your search engines (right-click on the URL/search box field, “Edit Search Engines”?) is hard to find
3) If you have figured out #2 for how to add a non-Google search engine, the trick of invoking your non-default by typing “Bing query term” just won’t work for my mom. Or brother even. It’s command-liney. Cool for geeks, but that’s it.
4) (related) there’s no visual way of seeing which search engines you can choose from when typing a query

It’s hard not to draw this up into a conspiracy theory: Google makes itself the default search engine, but makes it really hard to switch to another search provider, all the while “supporting” OpenSearch.

]]> By: aryan.charismatic1@gmail.com http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2008/09/02/musings-on-chrome-the-rebirth-of-the-location-bar-and-privacy-in-the-cloud/comment-page-1/#comment-102629 aryan.charismatic1@gmail.com Tue, 07 Oct 2008 11:37:58 +0000 http://factoryjoe.com/blog/?p=1003#comment-102629 Absolutely rocks in every way. Google has once again proven that it has what is needed to deliver great products. it’s a decent browser…download time may be a dash slower than other browsers but the app load time, smooth rendering, space utilization etc are great. Absolutely rocks in every way. Google has once again proven that it has what is needed to deliver great products. it’s a decent browser…download time may be a dash slower than other browsers but the app load time, smooth rendering, space utilization etc are great.

]]> By: Analysis of Chrome « Sideways8 http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2008/09/02/musings-on-chrome-the-rebirth-of-the-location-bar-and-privacy-in-the-cloud/comment-page-1/#comment-101023 Analysis of Chrome « Sideways8 Wed, 17 Sep 2008 15:05:43 +0000 http://factoryjoe.com/blog/?p=1003#comment-101023 [...] A few more points he expands in the original and subsequent post: [...] [...] A few more points he expands in the original and subsequent post: [...]

]]> By: Privacy Issues « jasperger http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2008/09/02/musings-on-chrome-the-rebirth-of-the-location-bar-and-privacy-in-the-cloud/comment-page-1/#comment-100431 Privacy Issues « jasperger Sun, 07 Sep 2008 23:16:34 +0000 http://factoryjoe.com/blog/?p=1003#comment-100431 [...] again with Google’s Chrome this seems to be the issue. But as Chris Messina [...] [...] again with Google’s Chrome this seems to be the issue. But as Chris Messina [...]

]]> By: links for 2008-09-07 « Breyten’s Dev Blog http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2008/09/02/musings-on-chrome-the-rebirth-of-the-location-bar-and-privacy-in-the-cloud/comment-page-1/#comment-100425 links for 2008-09-07 « Breyten’s Dev Blog Sun, 07 Sep 2008 21:36:49 +0000 http://factoryjoe.com/blog/?p=1003#comment-100425 [...] Musings on Chrome, the rebirth of the location bar and privacy in the cloud (tags: privacy google chrome dataownerschip databrokering databanks vrm vendorrelationshipmanagement chrismessina factoryjoe cloudcomputing webservices) [...] [...] Musings on Chrome, the rebirth of the location bar and privacy in the cloud (tags: privacy google chrome dataownerschip databrokering databanks vrm vendorrelationshipmanagement chrismessina factoryjoe cloudcomputing webservices) [...]

]]> By: Félicien Breton http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2008/09/02/musings-on-chrome-the-rebirth-of-the-location-bar-and-privacy-in-the-cloud/comment-page-1/#comment-100305 Félicien Breton Fri, 05 Sep 2008 19:27:34 +0000 http://factoryjoe.com/blog/?p=1003#comment-100305 @Matt: Chromium is open source. Where is the source of Chrome? @Matt: Chromium is open source. Where is the source of Chrome?

]]> By: Félicien Breton http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2008/09/02/musings-on-chrome-the-rebirth-of-the-location-bar-and-privacy-in-the-cloud/comment-page-1/#comment-100304 Félicien Breton Fri, 05 Sep 2008 19:25:46 +0000 http://factoryjoe.com/blog/?p=1003#comment-100304 @Chris: In this post you make a compelling argument. The tool change make us change our workflow; a phenomenom Joshua Porter coined as <a href="http://bokardo.com/archives/co-evolving/" rel="nofollow">co-evolving</a>. So most of us will "embrace tools that augment our cognitive faculties, and in so doing, shim open a window on our behaviors and our habits". A collateral concern is if this shimming open is to be abused by corporations. It is in the nature of organizations to push their advantage. "Everything" you do on the internet would go through Apple, Microsoft or Google. I propose that it is better if we keep a foundation (Mozilla) as important player. Google could selectively avoid proposing Chrome to the people landing on their homepage -- depending on their current browser. This is very easy to do. (<a href="http://www.frenchscout.com/die-ie" rel="nofollow">Here is an example in PHP</a>.) They don't. @Victor: I understand that your mention of a New Order hints on the political. Sorry if I miss some language subtleties. So i'll respond in kind. Accepting continuous updates is a choice. You are not compelled to move in the direction you are given. My usual browser is the latest Firefox version but this comment is being posted on <a href="http://www.gnome.org/projects/epiphany/" rel="nofollow">Epiphany</a> -- a browser that is switching from Gecko to Webkit. A better answer to you is the <a href="http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2008/09/02/musings-on-chrome-the-rebirth-of-the-location-bar-and-privacy-in-the-cloud/#comment-100152" rel="nofollow">1st comment from Jim Pick</a>. @Chris: In this post you make a compelling argument. The tool change make us change our workflow; a phenomenom Joshua Porter coined as co-evolving.

So most of us will “embrace tools that augment our cognitive faculties, and in so doing, shim open a window on our behaviors and our habits”. A collateral concern is if this shimming open is to be abused by corporations.
It is in the nature of organizations to push their advantage. “Everything” you do on the internet would go through Apple, Microsoft or Google.
I propose that it is better if we keep a foundation (Mozilla) as important player. Google could selectively avoid proposing Chrome to the people landing on their homepage — depending on their current browser. This is very easy to do. (Here is an example in PHP.) They don’t.

@Victor: I understand that your mention of a New Order hints on the political. Sorry if I miss some language subtleties. So i’ll respond in kind.
Accepting continuous updates is a choice. You are not compelled to move in the direction you are given. My usual browser is the latest Firefox version but this comment is being posted on Epiphany — a browser that is switching from Gecko to Webkit.
A better answer to you is the 1st comment from Jim Pick.

]]> By: brelson.com » My Google Chrome experiment http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2008/09/02/musings-on-chrome-the-rebirth-of-the-location-bar-and-privacy-in-the-cloud/comment-page-1/#comment-100220 brelson.com » My Google Chrome experiment Thu, 04 Sep 2008 09:27:32 +0000 http://factoryjoe.com/blog/?p=1003#comment-100220 [...] yesterday afternoon I joined the rest of the internet and downloaded Google’s new browser, [...] [...] yesterday afternoon I joined the rest of the internet and downloaded Google’s new browser, [...]

]]> By: Ross Hill http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2008/09/02/musings-on-chrome-the-rebirth-of-the-location-bar-and-privacy-in-the-cloud/comment-page-1/#comment-100199 Ross Hill Thu, 04 Sep 2008 01:33:29 +0000 http://factoryjoe.com/blog/?p=1003#comment-100199 Search is definitely a big one - so many people already type urls into Google, and keywords into location bars. This will make life easier for them! I also think this is <a href="http://www.rosshill.com.au/article/google-shows-their-hand-with-chrome/" rel="nofollow">a major play on web apps</a> (of which google has many). Search is definitely a big one – so many people already type urls into Google, and keywords into location bars. This will make life easier for them!

I also think this is a major play on web apps (of which google has many).

]]> By: Chris Messina http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2008/09/02/musings-on-chrome-the-rebirth-of-the-location-bar-and-privacy-in-the-cloud/comment-page-1/#comment-100187 Chris Messina Wed, 03 Sep 2008 22:00:02 +0000 http://factoryjoe.com/blog/?p=1003#comment-100187 @Todd: ! Ha! Well, I guess if you're willing to pay for the browser, then I guess I'll agree with you! @Todd: ! Ha! Well, I guess if you’re willing to pay for the browser, then I guess I’ll agree with you!

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