Comments on: Does OpenID need to be hard? http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2009/04/06/does-openid-need-to-be-hard/ This can all be made better. Ready? Begin. Sat, 20 Mar 2010 00:41:35 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Designing for the gut - SxDSalon: A group blog on social interaction design http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2009/04/06/does-openid-need-to-be-hard/comment-page-1/#comment-117277 Designing for the gut - SxDSalon: A group blog on social interaction design Sun, 14 Feb 2010 18:31:35 +0000 http://factoryjoe.com/blog/?p=1318#comment-117277 [...] experience with choice is an engineer’s solution that I’ve come to accept is bound to fail. Instead, the act of selecting an identity to “perform as” must happen early in [...] [...] experience with choice is an engineer’s solution that I’ve come to accept is bound to fail. Instead, the act of selecting an identity to “perform as” must happen early in [...]

]]> By: Chris Hills http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2009/04/06/does-openid-need-to-be-hard/comment-page-1/#comment-117261 Chris Hills Fri, 12 Feb 2010 13:30:31 +0000 http://factoryjoe.com/blog/?p=1318#comment-117261 The OpenID I use most often is an i-name ("=chris.hills" or "xri://=chris.hills") since it is short and sweet, and has proper service discovery through xrds. http://dev.inames.net/wiki/XRI_and_OpenID The OpenID I use most often is an i-name (“=chris.hills” or “xri://=chris.hills”) since it is short and sweet, and has proper service discovery through xrds.

http://dev.inames.net/wiki/XRI_and_OpenID

]]> By: Some links for light reading (7/4/09) « Max Design http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2009/04/06/does-openid-need-to-be-hard/comment-page-1/#comment-117022 Some links for light reading (7/4/09) « Max Design Fri, 29 Jan 2010 11:18:01 +0000 http://factoryjoe.com/blog/?p=1318#comment-117022 [...] Does OpenID need to be hard? [...] [...] Does OpenID need to be hard? [...]

]]> By: Links for 2010-01-11 | the fabulous freak http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2009/04/06/does-openid-need-to-be-hard/comment-page-1/#comment-116415 Links for 2010-01-11 | the fabulous freak Mon, 11 Jan 2010 19:39:50 +0000 http://factoryjoe.com/blog/?p=1318#comment-116415 [...] Does OpenID need to be hard? [FactoryCity] [...] [...] Does OpenID need to be hard? [FactoryCity] [...]

]]> By: OpenID Connect | FactoryCity http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2009/04/06/does-openid-need-to-be-hard/comment-page-1/#comment-114903 OpenID Connect | FactoryCity Mon, 04 Jan 2010 23:59:07 +0000 http://factoryjoe.com/blog/?p=1318#comment-114903 [...] been thinking about how we make OpenID both easier and sexier for quite a while now. As frustrating as the answer may be to technologists, the problem [...] [...] been thinking about how we make OpenID both easier and sexier for quite a while now. As frustrating as the answer may be to technologists, the problem [...]

]]> By: Designing for the gut | FactoryCity http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2009/04/06/does-openid-need-to-be-hard/comment-page-1/#comment-114187 Designing for the gut | FactoryCity Sat, 28 Nov 2009 17:27:58 +0000 http://factoryjoe.com/blog/?p=1318#comment-114187 [...] experience with choice is an engineer’s solution that I’ve come to accept is bound to fail. Instead, the act of selecting an identity to “perform as” must happen early in [...] [...] experience with choice is an engineer’s solution that I’ve come to accept is bound to fail. Instead, the act of selecting an identity to “perform as” must happen early in [...]

]]> By: Google Users Profiles Are OpenID Enabled – Spread OpenID http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2009/04/06/does-openid-need-to-be-hard/comment-page-1/#comment-113973 Google Users Profiles Are OpenID Enabled – Spread OpenID Wed, 25 Nov 2009 21:47:02 +0000 http://factoryjoe.com/blog/?p=1318#comment-113973 [...] Google has been an OpenID provider since October 2008 already. However users had to remember a rather cryptic URL, www.google.com/accounts/o8/id, which was the same for all users. Alternatively, relying parties and users could rely on the Google login button (see below), which led to the infamous NASCAR problem of OpenID, a term coined by Daniel Burka and made famous by Chris Messina. [...] [...] Google has been an OpenID provider since October 2008 already. However users had to remember a rather cryptic URL, http://www.google.com/accounts/o8/id, which was the same for all users. Alternatively, relying parties and users could rely on the Google login button (see below), which led to the infamous NASCAR problem of OpenID, a term coined by Daniel Burka and made famous by Chris Messina. [...]

]]> By: Unintended Side Effects - SxDSalon: A group blog on social interaction design http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2009/04/06/does-openid-need-to-be-hard/comment-page-1/#comment-113785 Unintended Side Effects - SxDSalon: A group blog on social interaction design Mon, 23 Nov 2009 07:43:25 +0000 http://factoryjoe.com/blog/?p=1318#comment-113785 [...] Now when I go onto a site, a site wanting to embrace open standards, a site committed to allowing their users to sign in with authentication credentials they already have, I am assaulted by a thousand logos and options, usually in addition to the ability to create a new account. Chris Messina, labels this the Nascar problem. [...] [...] Now when I go onto a site, a site wanting to embrace open standards, a site committed to allowing their users to sign in with authentication credentials they already have, I am assaulted by a thousand logos and options, usually in addition to the ability to create a new account. Chris Messina, labels this the Nascar problem. [...]

]]> By: Emir Bukva http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2009/04/06/does-openid-need-to-be-hard/comment-page-1/#comment-113583 Emir Bukva Fri, 20 Nov 2009 01:34:14 +0000 http://factoryjoe.com/blog/?p=1318#comment-113583 I think a big problem that the general public has with current implementations is the name used on links and buttons. "Use OpenID"; "Log in with OpenID"; "Sign in with OpenID" all have a tendency to confuse people because they contain "OpenID" and people have no idea what that means. Yes, I know it's the name of the thing but imagine me asking you to "use Refeget!" Would you have any idea what I'm referring to? (It's a made up word that means nothing). "Conncect with Facebook" works primarily because Facebook is so popular but it's also successful because people get it. I think microformats detection plug-ins suffer from the same problem. Most of them detect "hCards" instead of "Contacts" or "hCalendards" instead of "Events". Designers fight trench battles to persuade hospitals to use nomenclatures such as "Ear/Nose/Throat" rather than "Otolaryngology" when doing wayfinding systems and I bet more people would know what "Otolaryngology" means compared to "OpenID". I don't really have a solution, but there must be a way to separate the name of the technology from the language used in the interface to guide actions. Something along the lines of "Conncect with existing account" maybe? If I can use an account I already have, great. If not, guide a sign-up workflow for a preferred openID provider. I think a big problem that the general public has with current implementations is the name used on links and buttons. “Use OpenID”; “Log in with OpenID”; “Sign in with OpenID” all have a tendency to confuse people because they contain “OpenID” and people have no idea what that means. Yes, I know it’s the name of the thing but imagine me asking you to “use Refeget!” Would you have any idea what I’m referring to? (It’s a made up word that means nothing).

“Conncect with Facebook” works primarily because Facebook is so popular but it’s also successful because people get it. I think microformats detection plug-ins suffer from the same problem. Most of them detect “hCards” instead of “Contacts” or “hCalendards” instead of “Events”.

Designers fight trench battles to persuade hospitals to use nomenclatures such as “Ear/Nose/Throat” rather than “Otolaryngology” when doing wayfinding systems and I bet more people would know what “Otolaryngology” means compared to “OpenID”.

I don’t really have a solution, but there must be a way to separate the name of the technology from the language used in the interface to guide actions. Something along the lines of “Conncect with existing account” maybe? If I can use an account I already have, great. If not, guide a sign-up workflow for a preferred openID provider.

]]> By: Data Without Borders Episode 7: Report from the Internet Identity Workshop :: Data Without Borders http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2009/04/06/does-openid-need-to-be-hard/comment-page-1/#comment-111859 Data Without Borders Episode 7: Report from the Internet Identity Workshop :: Data Without Borders Mon, 09 Nov 2009 16:58:57 +0000 http://factoryjoe.com/blog/?p=1318#comment-111859 [...] The real problem with NASCAR [...] [...] The real problem with NASCAR [...]

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