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		<title>By: If Twitter killed bloglines will facebook connect kill OpenID? &#124; The Mouse&#039;s cradle</title>
		<link>http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2009/06/05/the-fall-of-vidoop/comment-page-1/#comment-118645</link>
		<dc:creator>If Twitter killed bloglines will facebook connect kill OpenID? &#124; The Mouse&#039;s cradle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Oct 2010 01:26:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] this is/was a service offered by a company called Vidoop that, as it seems, died &#8211; largely unannounced and at some later point bought/reincarnated  in another company called [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] this is/was a service offered by a company called Vidoop that, as it seems, died &#8211; largely unannounced and at some later point bought/reincarnated  in another company called [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Incredible Story of Scott Kveton: Linux, Firefox, Bacon &#38; iPhones</title>
		<link>http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2009/06/05/the-fall-of-vidoop/comment-page-1/#comment-117306</link>
		<dc:creator>The Incredible Story of Scott Kveton: Linux, Firefox, Bacon &#38; iPhones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 01:14:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] According to OpenID community leader and now Google employee Chris Messina, though, the company fired Kveton months earlier, for going to South by Southwest on its dime but actually speaking at the event about&#8230;selling [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] According to OpenID community leader and now Google employee Chris Messina, though, the company fired Kveton months earlier, for going to South by Southwest on its dime but actually speaking at the event about&#8230;selling [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Fost</title>
		<link>http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2009/06/05/the-fall-of-vidoop/comment-page-1/#comment-117093</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Fost</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 22:24:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris, belated congrats on this post, and big congrats and good luck in the new gig at Google. I hope to catch up with you one of these days. 

MyVidoop still seems to work, after all this time, although the plugin no longer works on Firefox. Is there a way to port the information stored there to any of the surviving OpenID services? I&#039;m inclined to go with myOpenID.com but would love to not have to re-enter everything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris, belated congrats on this post, and big congrats and good luck in the new gig at Google. I hope to catch up with you one of these days. </p>
<p>MyVidoop still seems to work, after all this time, although the plugin no longer works on Firefox. Is there a way to port the information stored there to any of the surviving OpenID services? I&#8217;m inclined to go with myOpenID.com but would love to not have to re-enter everything.</p>
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		<title>By: Portland&#8217;s rollercoaster year: Recapping the 2009 startup scene and looking forward to 2010 &#171; Silicon Florist</title>
		<link>http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2009/06/05/the-fall-of-vidoop/comment-page-1/#comment-114902</link>
		<dc:creator>Portland&#8217;s rollercoaster year: Recapping the 2009 startup scene and looking forward to 2010 &#171; Silicon Florist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 23:10:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] company that likely wouldn&#8217;t have come into existence without the aforementioned fall of Vidoop. And huge events that came from nothing but the sheer exertion of will, like Open Source Bridge and [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Brynn Marie Evans &#187; The failure of MyFarm: good intentions, poor execution</title>
		<link>http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2009/06/05/the-fall-of-vidoop/comment-page-1/#comment-111238</link>
		<dc:creator>Brynn Marie Evans &#187; The failure of MyFarm: good intentions, poor execution</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 20:13:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] until they unexpectedly laid off their entire team this past April. They ran out of money and time pursuing shiny things, and kept their fiscal situation a secret up until they announced that they couldn&#8217;t make [...]</description>
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		<title>By: easilyamused</title>
		<link>http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2009/06/05/the-fall-of-vidoop/comment-page-1/#comment-109896</link>
		<dc:creator>easilyamused</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 13:14:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just wandered over http://scott.kveton.com&#039;s blog (he comes across as more than just a little bit of douche here) and was amused to see http://kveton.com/blog/2008/07/23/congrats-to-chris-messina was posted after this post.

My favourite netdrama is still http://waxy.org/random/arsdigita.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just wandered over <a href="http://scott.kveton.com&#039;s" rel="nofollow">http://scott.kveton.com&#039;s</a> blog (he comes across as more than just a little bit of douche here) and was amused to see <a href="http://kveton.com/blog/2008/07/23/congrats-to-chris-messina" rel="nofollow">http://kveton.com/blog/2008/07/23/congrats-to-chris-messina</a> was posted after this post.</p>
<p>My favourite netdrama is still <a href="http://waxy.org/random/arsdigita" rel="nofollow">http://waxy.org/random/arsdigita</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim O'Pry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim O'Pry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 23:43:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for taking the time to relay this interesting and personally painful story. We were in the process of licensing the Vidoop product when the wheels came off the bus. Fortunately, the contract was not yet signed - and we are still looking at alternatives.

I do think you had an exceptional product, something all Vidoopers can be proud of. I wish all of you the best in your next endeavors. Here&#039;s hoping someone will realize the value in the IP you created and breathe new life into the project.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for taking the time to relay this interesting and personally painful story. We were in the process of licensing the Vidoop product when the wheels came off the bus. Fortunately, the contract was not yet signed &#8211; and we are still looking at alternatives.</p>
<p>I do think you had an exceptional product, something all Vidoopers can be proud of. I wish all of you the best in your next endeavors. Here&#8217;s hoping someone will realize the value in the IP you created and breathe new life into the project.</p>
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		<title>By: Gyuri Grell</title>
		<link>http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2009/06/05/the-fall-of-vidoop/comment-page-1/#comment-106053</link>
		<dc:creator>Gyuri Grell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 15:01:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had been using Verisign&#039;s PIP as my first OpenID provider, which I originally chose because they aren&#039;t likely to disappear anytime soon. Then I found MyVidoop, I really started using it because I liked all the features they have, esp. the Firefox plugin with autofill/save passwords and fields. It also helped that they hired you. It is unfortunate to see that something that works so well be so mismanaged.

Thanks to you, I now know about delegation which makes it far more convenient to switch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had been using Verisign&#8217;s PIP as my first OpenID provider, which I originally chose because they aren&#8217;t likely to disappear anytime soon. Then I found MyVidoop, I really started using it because I liked all the features they have, esp. the Firefox plugin with autofill/save passwords and fields. It also helped that they hired you. It is unfortunate to see that something that works so well be so mismanaged.</p>
<p>Thanks to you, I now know about delegation which makes it far more convenient to switch.</p>
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		<title>By: SpookyET</title>
		<link>http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2009/06/05/the-fall-of-vidoop/comment-page-1/#comment-105805</link>
		<dc:creator>SpookyET</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 01:33:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, what&#039;s the alternative? Will it be, MyOpenID, ClaimID, VeriSign PIP, MyID? I am aware that there are a million and half OpenID providers out there, but none I trust to last long, and most are crappy.

VeriSign seems to be the only one that matches Vidoop in security, but it has a horrible interface and a long URL.

MyID with sweet and short URL, but complicated with address book and other rubbish as if I care what my mate&#039;s OpenID url is.

ClaimID are thinking of going commercial and charging for value-added services. They are also thinking of having someone else provide security. The interface is somewhat busy. They seem as wishy-washy as Vidoop.

MyOpenID will never die unless OpenID dies. It&#039;s the http://www.janrain.com/ pet project. The interface could be improved. It&#039;s kind of crappy around the edges.

Facebook, Google, Yahoo don&#039;t allow control over the information more than Yes/No as I said in my article, &#039;Passwords are Stupid&#039; http://spookyet.wordpress.com/2009/05/23/passwords-are-stupid/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, what&#8217;s the alternative? Will it be, MyOpenID, ClaimID, VeriSign PIP, MyID? I am aware that there are a million and half OpenID providers out there, but none I trust to last long, and most are crappy.</p>
<p>VeriSign seems to be the only one that matches Vidoop in security, but it has a horrible interface and a long URL.</p>
<p>MyID with sweet and short URL, but complicated with address book and other rubbish as if I care what my mate&#8217;s OpenID url is.</p>
<p>ClaimID are thinking of going commercial and charging for value-added services. They are also thinking of having someone else provide security. The interface is somewhat busy. They seem as wishy-washy as Vidoop.</p>
<p>MyOpenID will never die unless OpenID dies. It&#8217;s the <a href="http://www.janrain.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.janrain.com/</a> pet project. The interface could be improved. It&#8217;s kind of crappy around the edges.</p>
<p>Facebook, Google, Yahoo don&#8217;t allow control over the information more than Yes/No as I said in my article, &#8216;Passwords are Stupid&#8217; <a href="http://spookyet.wordpress.com/2009/05/23/passwords-are-stupid/" rel="nofollow">http://spookyet.wordpress.com/2009/05/23/passwords-are-stupid/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jason Grlicky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason Grlicky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 00:45:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I may have been the last ex-Vidooper to read it, but I have to say I really appreciate you posting this! It great to have something to direct my non-Vidoop friends and family to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I may have been the last ex-Vidooper to read it, but I have to say I really appreciate you posting this! It great to have something to direct my non-Vidoop friends and family to.</p>
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