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	<title>Comments on: Microsoft Internet Explorer 8 at the height of cynicism</title>
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		<title>By: Hans Granqvist</title>
		<link>http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2009/06/17/microsoft-internet-explorer-8-at-the-height-of-cynicism/comment-page-1/#comment-107726</link>
		<dc:creator>Hans Granqvist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 21:52:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The intent is hideous agree, but the concept is cool. People dig this stuff.

Why not set something like this up for open standards? You don&#039;t really need a prize, I think people will do it for bragging rights (if not, maybe throw in a couple of author-signed s as well :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The intent is hideous agree, but the concept is cool. People dig this stuff.</p>
<p>Why not set something like this up for open standards? You don&#8217;t really need a prize, I think people will do it for bragging rights (if not, maybe throw in a couple of author-signed s as well <img src='http://factoryjoe.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: bljacob</title>
		<link>http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2009/06/17/microsoft-internet-explorer-8-at-the-height-of-cynicism/comment-page-1/#comment-107391</link>
		<dc:creator>bljacob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 15:30:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Basically, they&#039;re doing the same thing that got them in trouble with the DOJ years ago: trying to screw with open standards.

I wrote a relatively lengthy whitepaper about Microsoft and the Browser Wars a while back: 

    http://www.ece.umd.edu/~blj/ms-article.pdf

Never got around to publishing it -- the main idea was to influence the DOJ in the remedy stage, which kind of worked ... the EU followed our advice, the DOJ guys talked to us and liked our suggestions, but then Bush got elected and a new DOJ effectively tossed the case out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Basically, they&#8217;re doing the same thing that got them in trouble with the DOJ years ago: trying to screw with open standards.</p>
<p>I wrote a relatively lengthy whitepaper about Microsoft and the Browser Wars a while back: </p>
<p>    <a href="http://www.ece.umd.edu/~blj/ms-article.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.ece.umd.edu/~blj/ms-article.pdf</a></p>
<p>Never got around to publishing it &#8212; the main idea was to influence the DOJ in the remedy stage, which kind of worked &#8230; the EU followed our advice, the DOJ guys talked to us and liked our suggestions, but then Bush got elected and a new DOJ effectively tossed the case out.</p>
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		<title>By: Diogo</title>
		<link>http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2009/06/17/microsoft-internet-explorer-8-at-the-height-of-cynicism/comment-page-1/#comment-107356</link>
		<dc:creator>Diogo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 11:43:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Internet Explorer 8 doesn&#039;t open Microsoft campaign&#039;s site www.tengrandburiedhere.com ? Bing doesnt found it ? WTF ? LOL. Firefox always working. Don&#039;t know if this is suppose to be this way. But whatever LOL.

www.diogosergio.com/tengrandmicrosoft.JPG</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Internet Explorer 8 doesn&#8217;t open Microsoft campaign&#8217;s site <a href="http://www.tengrandburiedhere.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.tengrandburiedhere.com</a> ? Bing doesnt found it ? WTF ? LOL. Firefox always working. Don&#8217;t know if this is suppose to be this way. But whatever LOL.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.diogosergio.com/tengrandmicrosoft.JPG" rel="nofollow">http://www.diogosergio.com/tengrandmicrosoft.JPG</a></p>
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		<title>By: Erik F</title>
		<link>http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2009/06/17/microsoft-internet-explorer-8-at-the-height-of-cynicism/comment-page-1/#comment-107325</link>
		<dc:creator>Erik F</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 07:36:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m running Win7-64bit with IE8 and the site thinks I&#039;m using IE7. Good on you MS!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m running Win7-64bit with IE8 and the site thinks I&#8217;m using IE7. Good on you MS!</p>
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		<title>By: Gen Kanai</title>
		<link>http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2009/06/17/microsoft-internet-explorer-8-at-the-height-of-cynicism/comment-page-1/#comment-107305</link>
		<dc:creator>Gen Kanai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 05:20:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the other hand, any browser is welcome to this site, and zooming in you can find the treasure...

http://tengrandisburiedthere.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the other hand, any browser is welcome to this site, and zooming in you can find the treasure&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://tengrandisburiedthere.com/" rel="nofollow">http://tengrandisburiedthere.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: RSTaylor</title>
		<link>http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2009/06/17/microsoft-internet-explorer-8-at-the-height-of-cynicism/comment-page-1/#comment-107295</link>
		<dc:creator>RSTaylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 04:18:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stupider than it sounds, actually.

The clues section is totally viewable in Firefox if you set your user-agent to pretend to be IE8.

http://skitch.com/rstaylor/bwu3g/change-user-agent-in-firefox

http://skitch.com/rstaylor/bwu3k/microsoft-thinks-firefox-3-is-ie-8</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stupider than it sounds, actually.</p>
<p>The clues section is totally viewable in Firefox if you set your user-agent to pretend to be IE8.</p>
<p><a href="http://skitch.com/rstaylor/bwu3g/change-user-agent-in-firefox" rel="nofollow">http://skitch.com/rstaylor/bwu3g/change-user-agent-in-firefox</a></p>
<p><a href="http://skitch.com/rstaylor/bwu3k/microsoft-thinks-firefox-3-is-ie-8" rel="nofollow">http://skitch.com/rstaylor/bwu3k/microsoft-thinks-firefox-3-is-ie-8</a></p>
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		<title>By: Isaac</title>
		<link>http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2009/06/17/microsoft-internet-explorer-8-at-the-height-of-cynicism/comment-page-1/#comment-107255</link>
		<dc:creator>Isaac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 22:57:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Depends how they judge the &quot;must be using I8 to win&quot; bit - if it&#039;s dependent on some IE-only feature, then they&#039;re clearly in the wrong. But, if it&#039;s just based on judging the user-agent string, then that&#039;s a pretty harmless way to encourage people to try their browser.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Depends how they judge the &#8220;must be using I8 to win&#8221; bit &#8211; if it&#8217;s dependent on some IE-only feature, then they&#8217;re clearly in the wrong. But, if it&#8217;s just based on judging the user-agent string, then that&#8217;s a pretty harmless way to encourage people to try their browser.</p>
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		<title>By: Josafat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josafat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 22:12:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it&#039;s genious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s genious.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Messina</title>
		<link>http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2009/06/17/microsoft-internet-explorer-8-at-the-height-of-cynicism/comment-page-1/#comment-107211</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Messina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 21:02:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Niket: You can direct link to photos as long as you provide a link back:

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;b&gt;Do link back to Flickr when you post your Flickr content elsewhere.&lt;/b&gt;
The Flickr service makes it possible to post content hosted on Flickr to outside web sites. However, pages on other web sites that display content hosted on flickr.com must provide a link from each photo or video back to its page on Flickr.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Niket: You can direct link to photos as long as you provide a link back:</p>
<blockquote><p><b>Do link back to Flickr when you post your Flickr content elsewhere.</b><br />
The Flickr service makes it possible to post content hosted on Flickr to outside web sites. However, pages on other web sites that display content hosted on flickr.com must provide a link from each photo or video back to its page on Flickr.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Niket Patel</title>
		<link>http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2009/06/17/microsoft-internet-explorer-8-at-the-height-of-cynicism/comment-page-1/#comment-107208</link>
		<dc:creator>Niket Patel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 20:58:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Completely agree on topic.

One minor thing (off topic),
I guess flickr terms doesn&#039;t allow direct link to image file.
http://www.flickr.com/guidelines.gne</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Completely agree on topic.</p>
<p>One minor thing (off topic),<br />
I guess flickr terms doesn&#8217;t allow direct link to image file.<br />
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/guidelines.gne" rel="nofollow">http://www.flickr.com/guidelines.gne</a></p>
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