Comments on: The death of the URL http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2009/11/16/the-death-of-the-url/ This can all be made better. Ready? Begin. Thu, 18 Mar 2010 18:26:40 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Designing for the gut - SxDSalon: A group blog on social interaction design http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2009/11/16/the-death-of-the-url/comment-page-2/#comment-117276 Designing for the gut - SxDSalon: A group blog on social interaction design Sun, 14 Feb 2010 18:30:57 +0000 http://factoryjoe.com/blog/?p=1791#comment-117276 [...] writing about the death of the URL, I wanted to expose some consequences of this division. While the intellectually adventuresome are [...] [...] writing about the death of the URL, I wanted to expose some consequences of this division. While the intellectually adventuresome are [...]

]]> By: Die wunderbare Welt von Isotopp http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2009/11/16/the-death-of-the-url/comment-page-2/#comment-117097 Die wunderbare Welt von Isotopp Sat, 06 Feb 2010 19:43:00 +0000 http://factoryjoe.com/blog/?p=1791#comment-117097 <strong>Der Tod der URL...</strong> In meinem Kampf gegen mein Backlog bin ich nun schon immerhin im November letzten Jahres angekommen: Damals schrieb Chris Messina über The Death Of The URL. Er analysiert, wie verschiedene Inkarnationen des Webfernsehens wie tatsächliche Webfernseher, ... Der Tod der URL…

In meinem Kampf gegen mein Backlog bin ich nun schon immerhin im November letzten Jahres angekommen: Damals schrieb Chris Messina über The Death Of The URL. Er analysiert, wie verschiedene Inkarnationen des Webfernsehens wie tatsächliche Webfernseher, …

]]> By: Newman Library Idea Lab » Tech Sharecase, 29 January 2010 http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2009/11/16/the-death-of-the-url/comment-page-2/#comment-117024 Newman Library Idea Lab » Tech Sharecase, 29 January 2010 Fri, 29 Jan 2010 20:32:51 +0000 http://factoryjoe.com/blog/?p=1791#comment-117024 [...] device as being too locked down, filled with DRM restrictions, and further the use of apps, which some view as a problematic development that signals an effort to return to walled gardens of the web of the early 1990s. The device seems [...] [...] device as being too locked down, filled with DRM restrictions, and further the use of apps, which some view as a problematic development that signals an effort to return to walled gardens of the web of the early 1990s. The device seems [...]

]]> By: The Web in Danger | BlogHalt.com (Pre-Launch) http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2009/11/16/the-death-of-the-url/comment-page-2/#comment-116993 The Web in Danger | BlogHalt.com (Pre-Launch) Wed, 27 Jan 2010 08:26:59 +0000 http://factoryjoe.com/blog/?p=1791#comment-116993 [...] Chris Messina, The Death of the URL: [...] [...] Chris Messina, The Death of the URL: [...]

]]> By: The Web in Danger | BlogHalt.com http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2009/11/16/the-death-of-the-url/comment-page-2/#comment-116968 The Web in Danger | BlogHalt.com Tue, 26 Jan 2010 16:24:40 +0000 http://factoryjoe.com/blog/?p=1791#comment-116968 [...] Chris Messina, The Death of the URL: [...] [...] Chris Messina, The Death of the URL: [...]

]]> By: LKRaider http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2009/11/16/the-death-of-the-url/comment-page-2/#comment-116581 LKRaider Tue, 19 Jan 2010 14:34:54 +0000 http://factoryjoe.com/blog/?p=1791#comment-116581 A technical note: We need devices to have static ipv6 assigned to them, so we can reference globally without intermediaries (dns, etc), then we can see a return to self-publishing services. A technical note: We need devices to have static ipv6 assigned to them, so we can reference globally without intermediaries (dns, etc), then we can see a return to self-publishing services.

]]> By: Montana Flynn http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2009/11/16/the-death-of-the-url/comment-page-2/#comment-114437 Montana Flynn Tue, 08 Dec 2009 21:11:53 +0000 http://factoryjoe.com/blog/?p=1791#comment-114437 Great post, it really opened my eyes. I really appreciate the links an time you put into this. Great post, it really opened my eyes. I really appreciate the links an time you put into this.

]]> By: litl_phil http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2009/11/16/the-death-of-the-url/comment-page-2/#comment-114435 litl_phil Tue, 08 Dec 2009 20:16:03 +0000 http://factoryjoe.com/blog/?p=1791#comment-114435 Hi, I work with litl. We'd disagree strongly that our UI takes away any freedom to surf - you can just type urls into our interface like on any browser and go there. And we don't have any plans at all to try to kill that or to restrict access to searches as far as I am aware nor can I imagine why we would do that. We freely admit that we take inspiration in easel mode from the metaphor of the TV and agree that people need a web appliance but by the same token we are still a webbook and work like one in laptop mode. What we do have plans to do is expand our offerings of litl channels - these don't restrict targeted web services and content either but do customize the interface to these so that these slide effortlessly into our UI and usability model. We're also releasing an SDK soon so people can build their own channels. We won't seek to overly control what can go through a litl channel only the interface to it. And you can still go straight to web pages. I've participated in or sat in on many high level discussions at litl and I've never once heard any mention of us trying to strangle or unduly manipulate user's url choices. We do offer our suggestions for sites, streams and webapps and we don't necessarily get any direct benefit from those. Watch http://blog.litl.com for new channel announcements. Hi, I work with litl. We’d disagree strongly that our UI takes away any freedom to surf – you can just type urls into our interface like on any browser and go there. And we don’t have any plans at all to try to kill that or to restrict access to searches as far as I am aware nor can I imagine why we would do that.

We freely admit that we take inspiration in easel mode from the metaphor of the TV and agree that people need a web appliance but by the same token we are still a webbook and work like one in laptop mode. What we do have plans to do is expand our offerings of litl channels – these don’t restrict targeted web services and content either but do customize the interface to these so that these slide effortlessly into our UI and usability model. We’re also releasing an SDK soon so people can build their own channels. We won’t seek to overly control what can go through a litl channel only the interface to it. And you can still go straight to web pages. I’ve participated in or sat in on many high level discussions at litl and I’ve never once heard any mention of us trying to strangle or unduly manipulate user’s url choices. We do offer our suggestions for sites, streams and webapps and we don’t necessarily get any direct benefit from those. Watch http://blog.litl.com for new channel announcements.

]]> By: The Webmechs Press » Microsoft should replace IE with a CoreCLR-based browser http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2009/11/16/the-death-of-the-url/comment-page-2/#comment-114419 The Webmechs Press » Microsoft should replace IE with a CoreCLR-based browser Mon, 07 Dec 2009 18:21:16 +0000 http://factoryjoe.com/blog/?p=1791#comment-114419 [...] In this other blog post, the author explains why end-users RIAs, among other things destroy some of what is good about the [...] [...] In this other blog post, the author explains why end-users RIAs, among other things destroy some of what is good about the [...]

]]> By: Beth Robinson http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2009/11/16/the-death-of-the-url/comment-page-2/#comment-114416 Beth Robinson Mon, 07 Dec 2009 13:50:54 +0000 http://factoryjoe.com/blog/?p=1791#comment-114416 It's important to be concerned about such things. It certainly wasn't a trend I'd paid attention to, so I appreciate the heads up. However, I expect that it's primarily a manifestation of the technology adoption lifecycle. There will always be people working and living in the early adopters phase. There will always be kids and adults who don't want to do just what is presented them and will go find out how to do the rest. And there will always be people who are content otherwise. The existence of libraries and bookstores is side by side with the large percentage of adults who never read a book all the way through after they've completed school. It’s important to be concerned about such things. It certainly wasn’t a trend I’d paid attention to, so I appreciate the heads up.

However, I expect that it’s primarily a manifestation of the technology adoption lifecycle. There will always be people working and living in the early adopters phase. There will always be kids and adults who don’t want to do just what is presented them and will go find out how to do the rest. And there will always be people who are content otherwise.

The existence of libraries and bookstores is side by side with the large percentage of adults who never read a book all the way through after they’ve completed school.

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