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		<title>By: Google&#8217;s Aardvark Acquisition Sheds Light On Larger Plans &#124; Mostly Media - Definitely Digital</title>
		<link>http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2010/02/10/google-buzz-and-the-fabric-of-the-social-web/comment-page-1/#comment-117821</link>
		<dc:creator>Google&#8217;s Aardvark Acquisition Sheds Light On Larger Plans &#124; Mostly Media - Definitely Digital</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Apr 2010 13:32:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] obviously speaks well to the &quot;open web&quot; movement and how Google is positioning its APIs. Whether or not dropping social elements in GMail is your [...]</description>
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		<title>By: I Want to Know what Buzz Is? with Adrian Chan — Tummelvision 6 &#171; TummelVision</title>
		<link>http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2010/02/10/google-buzz-and-the-fabric-of-the-social-web/comment-page-1/#comment-117376</link>
		<dc:creator>I Want to Know what Buzz Is? with Adrian Chan — Tummelvision 6 &#171; TummelVision</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 09:35:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] commentary: Open Standards within Buzz by Kevin Marks and Chris Messina Privacy failings by Suw Charman and Chris Carfi Google&#8217;s improvements Twitter theory applied [...]</description>
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		<title>By: frogpond &#187; Google buzz and the fabric of the social web</title>
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		<dc:creator>frogpond &#187; Google buzz and the fabric of the social web</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 20:23:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] competition, which in turn affords people better options, and more leverage in the world.&#8221;Says Chris &#8211; oh yes, and this must be only the beginning, right? See epeus.blogspot.com &#8211; I am [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] competition, which in turn affords people better options, and more leverage in the world.&#8221;Says Chris &#8211; oh yes, and this must be only the beginning, right? See epeus.blogspot.com &#8211; I am [...]</p>
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		<title>By: frogpond &#187; Google Buzz and the fabric of the social web</title>
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		<dc:creator>frogpond &#187; Google Buzz and the fabric of the social web</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 20:19:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] competition, which in turn affords people better options, and more leverage in the world.&quot; Says Chris - oh yes, and this must be only the beginning, right? See epeus.blogspot.com - I am crossposting [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] competition, which in turn affords people better options, and more leverage in the world.&quot; Says Chris &#8211; oh yes, and this must be only the beginning, right? See epeus.blogspot.com &#8211; I am crossposting [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ed</title>
		<link>http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2010/02/10/google-buzz-and-the-fabric-of-the-social-web/comment-page-1/#comment-117281</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2010 04:40:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris, 
I think peoples expectation was that if *Google* acts
authoritatively, with expectations from tiny entities
(speed up your sites or disappear, mom &amp; pop),
then they sure shouldn&#039;t launch a security nightmare.

To me, it&#039;s symptomatic of a company seeing only
from a revenues-potential perspective.
I can&#039;t imagine one person there thought like a normal user,
and didn&#039;t have it strike them ahead of time.

I&#039;ve liked a lot of your opinions and work over time, Chris,
most recently your quick mind on http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2010/01/18/designing-hashtags-for-emergency-response/

But I implore you; use any influence to humanize Google,
especially &quot;Social Google&quot;.
I may never be as tech smart as their least employee,
but the public-facing evidence of a lack humans in Mountain View is stunning. 
And please, please don&#039;t try to be Twitter.
We have and love Twitter. Add an entire different,
wonderful advancement to the human-based web.

Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris,<br />
I think peoples expectation was that if *Google* acts<br />
authoritatively, with expectations from tiny entities<br />
(speed up your sites or disappear, mom &#038; pop),<br />
then they sure shouldn&#8217;t launch a security nightmare.</p>
<p>To me, it&#8217;s symptomatic of a company seeing only<br />
from a revenues-potential perspective.<br />
I can&#8217;t imagine one person there thought like a normal user,<br />
and didn&#8217;t have it strike them ahead of time.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve liked a lot of your opinions and work over time, Chris,<br />
most recently your quick mind on <a href="http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2010/01/18/designing-hashtags-for-emergency-response/" rel="nofollow">http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2010/01/18/designing-hashtags-for-emergency-response/</a></p>
<p>But I implore you; use any influence to humanize Google,<br />
especially &#8220;Social Google&#8221;.<br />
I may never be as tech smart as their least employee,<br />
but the public-facing evidence of a lack humans in Mountain View is stunning.<br />
And please, please don&#8217;t try to be Twitter.<br />
We have and love Twitter. Add an entire different,<br />
wonderful advancement to the human-based web.</p>
<p>Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2010/02/10/google-buzz-and-the-fabric-of-the-social-web/comment-page-1/#comment-117271</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2010 04:17:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to say, this is the first time that Google has really turned me off, I&#039;d even say truly upset me.  I hold Gmail out as one of the finest web apps, or software apps on the planet, but the way Buzz was injected into it, with no buy in from the users, completely repulses me.  I did not ask or give permission to Google to &quot;connect&quot; me to all these random people I may have emailed with in the past (and half the connections that were made automatically for me certainly do seem random - 1 email back and forth with someone doesn&#039;t count for much).  Buzz in and of itself, may wind up being good or useful or whatever, but due to the introduction, the &quot;invasion of privacy&quot; and the really poor way this was launched, I&#039;m now completely turned off.

I do hope that Google can recognize that they introduced this the wrong way - you don&#039;t force folks into it and start creating connections without anyone&#039;s consent - and remove it, or at least make it fully opt-in. 

Mr. Messina, I have to say, I&#039;m really a bit surprised.  From reading your blog, I considered you one fighting the good fight for strong authentication and similar standards, which to me relate to privacy concerns.  Thus, quite honestly, the above post comes across sounding like a PR piece.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to say, this is the first time that Google has really turned me off, I&#8217;d even say truly upset me.  I hold Gmail out as one of the finest web apps, or software apps on the planet, but the way Buzz was injected into it, with no buy in from the users, completely repulses me.  I did not ask or give permission to Google to &#8220;connect&#8221; me to all these random people I may have emailed with in the past (and half the connections that were made automatically for me certainly do seem random &#8211; 1 email back and forth with someone doesn&#8217;t count for much).  Buzz in and of itself, may wind up being good or useful or whatever, but due to the introduction, the &#8220;invasion of privacy&#8221; and the really poor way this was launched, I&#8217;m now completely turned off.</p>
<p>I do hope that Google can recognize that they introduced this the wrong way &#8211; you don&#8217;t force folks into it and start creating connections without anyone&#8217;s consent &#8211; and remove it, or at least make it fully opt-in. </p>
<p>Mr. Messina, I have to say, I&#8217;m really a bit surprised.  From reading your blog, I considered you one fighting the good fight for strong authentication and similar standards, which to me relate to privacy concerns.  Thus, quite honestly, the above post comes across sounding like a PR piece.</p>
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		<title>By: GuillaumeB</title>
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		<dc:creator>GuillaumeB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 22:14:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>so now rumors are spreading about Buzz being separated from Gmail... now sure this would be a smart move</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so now rumors are spreading about Buzz being separated from Gmail&#8230; now sure this would be a smart move</p>
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		<title>By: Louis Chua</title>
		<link>http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2010/02/10/google-buzz-and-the-fabric-of-the-social-web/comment-page-1/#comment-117262</link>
		<dc:creator>Louis Chua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 17:16:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Buzz needs to have a feature that is strong enough to move people like me off Facebook, or at least makes it worthwhile for me to go to both Facebook and Buzz. This is not impossible as I regularly checks LinkedIn (more professional), QZone (All my China contacts are on it). And it has a very short timeframe to convince us. 

If it doesn&#039;t build up a critical mass among early adopters, the steam will run out, and the product will collapse like a bad souffle.

While true standards are nice-to-have, de facto standards and platforms have already dominated the social networking field, and trying to change all that, would take considerable effort on all parties, plus FB makes some serious missteps a la Friendster. 

Not impossible, but unlikely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Buzz needs to have a feature that is strong enough to move people like me off Facebook, or at least makes it worthwhile for me to go to both Facebook and Buzz. This is not impossible as I regularly checks LinkedIn (more professional), QZone (All my China contacts are on it). And it has a very short timeframe to convince us. </p>
<p>If it doesn&#8217;t build up a critical mass among early adopters, the steam will run out, and the product will collapse like a bad souffle.</p>
<p>While true standards are nice-to-have, de facto standards and platforms have already dominated the social networking field, and trying to change all that, would take considerable effort on all parties, plus FB makes some serious missteps a la Friendster. </p>
<p>Not impossible, but unlikely.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Essel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Essel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 02:26:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Chris.

Interoperability and transportability of all collaborative web data is the key to user freedom and healthy competition on merit.

I&#039;d like to see these same trends extend not just over and through the web, but throughout all devices, information systems, and services. I&#039;d like the world to be read/write.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Chris.</p>
<p>Interoperability and transportability of all collaborative web data is the key to user freedom and healthy competition on merit.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to see these same trends extend not just over and through the web, but throughout all devices, information systems, and services. I&#8217;d like the world to be read/write.</p>
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		<title>By: Google Buzz and the fabric of the social web &#124; FactoryCity &#124; NoiseBlogger - A Dynamic, Upto Date, Revolutionary News Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Google Buzz and the fabric of the social web &#124; FactoryCity &#124; NoiseBlogger - A Dynamic, Upto Date, Revolutionary News Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 02:10:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Continue reading here: Google Buzz and the fabric of the social web &#124; FactoryCity [...]</description>
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