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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2010/03/11/the-social-agent/comment-page-1/#comment-118065</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 May 2010 16:29:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Very nice concept! At the same time, I am a bit surprised that suu guys didn&#039;t come up with such a concept sooner.
As a produch manager for a very small startup (www.inslices.com), I have worked a lot on the way people collect &amp; share things on the web.
Our service is far from being perfect but symbolizes another way to tackle this problem.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very nice concept! At the same time, I am a bit surprised that suu guys didn&#8217;t come up with such a concept sooner.<br />
As a produch manager for a very small startup (www.inslices.com), I have worked a lot on the way people collect &#038; share things on the web.<br />
Our service is far from being perfect but symbolizes another way to tackle this problem.</p>
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		<title>By: Jake Levine</title>
		<link>http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2010/03/11/the-social-agent/comment-page-1/#comment-117817</link>
		<dc:creator>Jake Levine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Apr 2010 04:33:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Chris - Thought provoking series. Thanks for putting this together.

How do you think about the hierarchy of identity provisioning? One way to describe the range of services a user engages with is to move from general to specific; another way is to move from public to private. 

One example: Does it make sense to visit Paypal for the first time with Google as my provisioner or with BankofAmerica as my provisioner? Both have access to different and perhaps discrete pools of user information. 

Will there be a natural tendency for users to select as providers those services that have the broadest pool of user data? So that when they are asked to delegate permissions they do not have to enter additional security credentials? If that is the case, then does this give those generalist providers an unfair advantage over niche services that are delegated to, instead of delegated from?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris &#8211; Thought provoking series. Thanks for putting this together.</p>
<p>How do you think about the hierarchy of identity provisioning? One way to describe the range of services a user engages with is to move from general to specific; another way is to move from public to private. </p>
<p>One example: Does it make sense to visit Paypal for the first time with Google as my provisioner or with BankofAmerica as my provisioner? Both have access to different and perhaps discrete pools of user information. </p>
<p>Will there be a natural tendency for users to select as providers those services that have the broadest pool of user data? So that when they are asked to delegate permissions they do not have to enter additional security credentials? If that is the case, then does this give those generalist providers an unfair advantage over niche services that are delegated to, instead of delegated from?</p>
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		<title>By: Bertil Hatt</title>
		<link>http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2010/03/11/the-social-agent/comment-page-1/#comment-117815</link>
		<dc:creator>Bertil Hatt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Apr 2010 01:40:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So many things to come back at you with—the first one obviously being: that&#039;s a weirdly futuristic, flying-car post-mortem for Flock. I a good, but cover with blind spots way.

The exercise is necessary, but I&#039;m not sure what including the browser brings to the whole thing: people need a storage for social interactions that ought to be connected to their mails, cellphone, SNS/activity streams/feed-reader and… their browser — but apart from you being a graphic designer in need of mock-up, why would Mozilla make it where Flock failed, Chrome hasn&#039;t tried and Facebook (Connect) somewhat made it? F8 will only ask this question harder.

The biggest problem I see in all that isn&#039;t the service: it&#039;s having people agreeing on what interactions are. Facebook has been very good at making 400M people fall into an acceptable on what are essential expectations from a certain subset of their relations — but Zuckerberg doesn&#039;t care for breastfeeding, curse-words or any Vampire game: he cares that most of his users are happy, together. The newly hard part being “together”.

Do I want to have advice based on the sex-log of my new girlfriend and her geeky, über-lifeloging ex? Convenient, but creepy, huh? More generally, to work, any solution like the one you discuss should be able to accommodate four contradictory situations:
* will your boss be happy you use those (and should you bring your personal browser at work, where it could be scanned)?
* can you job-hunt safely while working elsewhere?
* can you safely accommodate being unfaithful with that tech?
* what happens when you dump your boyfriend, and who decides what he should know about the new one?

Any tech, including public reading, accommodates: “Guys! I found this great book—let me show it to you.” Only some weird, genially dysfunctional Microsoft Exchange can reassure a psyched and lame co-worker that his e-mails have been opened that the only reason no one came to the meeting was a poorly resolved scheduling conflict that no one could have anticipated.

My guess is that the solution to all those isn&#039;t software, but society&#039;s expectation. Sit on Flock for a while, until people know how to make sense of it. In the meantime, unclear solutions tend to leverage their misunderstandings.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So many things to come back at you with—the first one obviously being: that&#8217;s a weirdly futuristic, flying-car post-mortem for Flock. I a good, but cover with blind spots way.</p>
<p>The exercise is necessary, but I&#8217;m not sure what including the browser brings to the whole thing: people need a storage for social interactions that ought to be connected to their mails, cellphone, SNS/activity streams/feed-reader and… their browser — but apart from you being a graphic designer in need of mock-up, why would Mozilla make it where Flock failed, Chrome hasn&#8217;t tried and Facebook (Connect) somewhat made it? F8 will only ask this question harder.</p>
<p>The biggest problem I see in all that isn&#8217;t the service: it&#8217;s having people agreeing on what interactions are. Facebook has been very good at making 400M people fall into an acceptable on what are essential expectations from a certain subset of their relations — but Zuckerberg doesn&#8217;t care for breastfeeding, curse-words or any Vampire game: he cares that most of his users are happy, together. The newly hard part being “together”.</p>
<p>Do I want to have advice based on the sex-log of my new girlfriend and her geeky, über-lifeloging ex? Convenient, but creepy, huh? More generally, to work, any solution like the one you discuss should be able to accommodate four contradictory situations:<br />
* will your boss be happy you use those (and should you bring your personal browser at work, where it could be scanned)?<br />
* can you job-hunt safely while working elsewhere?<br />
* can you safely accommodate being unfaithful with that tech?<br />
* what happens when you dump your boyfriend, and who decides what he should know about the new one?</p>
<p>Any tech, including public reading, accommodates: “Guys! I found this great book—let me show it to you.” Only some weird, genially dysfunctional Microsoft Exchange can reassure a psyched and lame co-worker that his e-mails have been opened that the only reason no one came to the meeting was a poorly resolved scheduling conflict that no one could have anticipated.</p>
<p>My guess is that the solution to all those isn&#8217;t software, but society&#8217;s expectation. Sit on Flock for a while, until people know how to make sense of it. In the meantime, unclear solutions tend to leverage their misunderstandings.</p>
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		<title>By: FactoryCity &#187; The social agent, part 5: Narrated Video</title>
		<link>http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2010/03/11/the-social-agent/comment-page-1/#comment-117811</link>
		<dc:creator>FactoryCity &#187; The social agent, part 5: Narrated Video</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Apr 2010 23:25:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] weeks ago, I published the first four parts (1, 2, 3, and 4) of The Social Agent, my addition to the Mozilla Concept Series focused on online [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Pete Barry</title>
		<link>http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2010/03/11/the-social-agent/comment-page-1/#comment-117810</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete Barry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Apr 2010 19:23:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Chris, I love the broad range of thought that you&#039;ve put into this. I&#039;d love to see the future browser somehow utilize cloud based plug-ins which could be tied to the identity as well. It&#039;s when I try to use someone else&#039;s computer that I realize how much I have customized my browsing experience. I imagine the browser as a bare skeleton. Applying an identity adds muscle and fat to it and creates the personalized experience.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris, I love the broad range of thought that you&#8217;ve put into this. I&#8217;d love to see the future browser somehow utilize cloud based plug-ins which could be tied to the identity as well. It&#8217;s when I try to use someone else&#8217;s computer that I realize how much I have customized my browsing experience. I imagine the browser as a bare skeleton. Applying an identity adds muscle and fat to it and creates the personalized experience.</p>
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		<title>By: FactoryCity &#187; The social agent, part 4: Share</title>
		<link>http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2010/03/11/the-social-agent/comment-page-1/#comment-117755</link>
		<dc:creator>FactoryCity &#187; The social agent, part 4: Share</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 17:54:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] entries in the concept series include:  Part 1: The Social Agent, Part 2: Connect, and Part 3: [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: perMicah &#124; Mozilla UI Concept Series &#8211; Flickr set</title>
		<link>http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2010/03/11/the-social-agent/comment-page-1/#comment-117711</link>
		<dc:creator>perMicah &#124; Mozilla UI Concept Series &#8211; Flickr set</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 16:24:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Flickr set of concepts for Mozilla done by Factory Joe. Late last fall, from late November through December 2009, I worked with Mozilla Labs to envision [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Blog &#124; CONCREETE</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blog &#124; CONCREETE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 12:33:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Flickr Album here More here [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: FactoryCity &#187; The social agent, part 3: Follow</title>
		<link>http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2010/03/11/the-social-agent/comment-page-1/#comment-117702</link>
		<dc:creator>FactoryCity &#187; The social agent, part 3: Follow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 11:24:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] entries in the concept series include:  Part 1: The Social Agent and Part 2: [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Rubbishcorp &#174; .::. Mozilla Online Identity Concept Series :</title>
		<link>http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2010/03/11/the-social-agent/comment-page-1/#comment-117700</link>
		<dc:creator>Rubbishcorp &#174; .::. Mozilla Online Identity Concept Series :</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 09:55:35 +0000</pubDate>
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